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The government and the ruling party when questioned on Covid -- how dare you ask questions based on numbers they are very inaccurate and terrible in case we collected them, mostly we didnt and we have no data.

The same government and the ruling party on their claimed achievements -- how dare you question our rock solid reliable numbers. You must be a traitor, unpatriotic, anti-national, tukde-tukde-gang-urban-naxal-protest-jeevi, why dont you go to Pakistan.

For amusement (not exactly sure why those close to the ruling party is so focused on increasing tourism in Pakistan. I wish they paid as much attention to Indian concerns): https://www.google.com/search?q=BJP+go+to+Pakistan

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The two of you have gotten into flamewars with each other in the past. This is destructive of what HN is for and is not acceptable. Would you please stop it? We've had to ask you this before. Not cool.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Its very rare that I disagree with you, but I think this would be one such. PP made a claim that data from Indian government is not trusted, and implied bad faith as if the rest of the world has a chip on their shoulder about India.

I think it is legitimate to show why numbers quoted by this government (in particular, but its largely true in general) is distrusted. The examples that I quoted are publicly available and very overwhelmingly typical.

I think a corollary of free speech is that the community should contest and call out misinformation.

You seem to be misunderstanding the guidelines against flamewar and political battle on HN. Your comment clearly broke them and you've done this many times before. This sort of thing is obviously flamewar:

We need you not to do that here regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. Actually your entire comment was flamewar - using sarcasm to sharpen political points, ridiculing opponents, and so on. None of that is ok, and being right (or feeling that you are right) does not entitle you to do it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Dan I respectfully disagree. It may appear to be sarcasm, I wish it was, it is however entirely and quite dryly literal, multiple statements by cabinet ministers, members of the parliament, official party spokesmen would adequately demonstrate that.

The purpose of adding a link to a Google query was to address this specific misapprehension and criticism. Those are literally the official responses by the representatives of the government.

It only goes on to show how bad the situation is that lifting statements from the official party line gets interpreted as bad faith sarcasm.

To give an example, if I write

   Early Indian scientist unsullied by western corruption could transplant face of an elephant on a human being. -- Indian Prime Minister.

That may appear to be sarcasm, but that's the PMs publicly aired belief. Similarly, wallowing in cow dung and drinking cow urine can prevent/cure Covid is a publicly aired belief of many members of the Indian parliament coming from the ruling party. Problems are exacerbated by the fact that they now have megaphone and people close to their agenda defend them on forums using the idea than any disagreement is sourced from antinationalism, Hindu phobia, proximity to Islam or communism or Pakistan as an argument.

I don't think 'both sides were at fault' does justice.

Hinduphobic guy does not like current Govt. What are the odds!!

We've asked you before not to post like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25985903. If you do it again we will have to ban you. Religious and nationalistic flamewar is not welcome on HN, and doubly so in the form of cheap drive-by comments. No more of this, please.

Edit: it was even the same user you were flaming. This is seriously not cool.

That what happens if you let tolerate those kind of comments. Stupid false blatant false info are upvoted. If you try to answer civilly then you are donwvoted. I could have left it, but choose to indulge. You can ban me, anyway that would stop me getting involved in these petty situations. I don't anyway contribute much, just here for some tech news.

btw you implied i would be banned, but not the other user. What makes me special?

Your comment was noticeably worse.

ok. I can understand that.

btw there is no way to delete the account is it? I just need to loose the password?

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