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Thing is it is not that difficult to lock down most porn sites if you are in control of the router and can force the use of a specific DNS.

If you have your childrens iPhones as part of a family setup you can also block their access that way.

However I salute you for your choice, which is the harder and better way. If more parents did as you, we would not have the issues we have today.

Porn is nice enough but watch, but because there is essentially no discussion about how to have sex (outside of school, which at best is put tab a in slot b, here is how not to become pregnant, this is what STDs are.) the only input too many teens get is porn.

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I've wondered what is the best strategy is over the years.

1. Heavily restrict the porn/bad sites.

2. Let them see the bowels of the internet, and hope they will go in the opposite direction.

3. Talk to them about the bowels of the Internet in a way that makes them not like it. Talk about what they should do when they encounter a thing/situation that is too much for them (close the tab, talk to you about it). They should feel that they already know what is out there without actually having to go through it themselves.

Reminds me about how my parents explained drugs to me. They told me a lot about different substances, why it is bad, why people get addicted them, what it does to them. E.g. my father had a friend who was a alcoholic till he died and he told us the story of how fun it all started and how everything went south for him. Similar things for other drugs, cigarettes, etc. Not for the sake of shocking us, but to rationally and emphatically explain the dangers (and fascinations) involved with the thing.

With all 4 kids this turend out to be a pretty solid strategy

Idk.....Some things cannot be unseen and humans are curious. Porn is one thing, but seeing gruesome deaths is completely different experience. There are things I wish I have never seen before, and I did not want to see many of them.

Today, I know in many places people are being killed in awful ways because of their religion or lack of it, sex, what they identify as, or because they live in a unstable place.

Plus, you can tell a child the stove may be hot a million times, yet they will touch it and burn themselves. Children and younger adults often feel they know better and something wont happen to them.

Depends on their age, I think.

If they have phones with a sim and data they can just turn off the wifi and bypass the local network blocks.

In the UK many mobile networks block sites by default unless you go through age verification.

That is super handy. We don't have that down here in Australia. We do have some country wide blocks but it is only those mandated by the government.

>If you have your childrens iPhones as part of a family setup you can also block their access that way.

Apples allows you to disable their access to install apps, browse the web (with or without restrictions) or use any other installed app. You can turn your childs iPhone into essentially an ipod with facetime (that can only contact you) if you want.

If you give them an unlucked laptop, you are right of course. So don't do that, if you want to go that route.

Won’t block Firefox which uses encrypted DoH dns.

Firefox has an official way to disable that. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/configuring-networks-di...

All Pi-hole instances use it by default. https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole/releases/tag/v4.4

That doesn't work if the user manually enables DoH:

> Note: The canary domain only applies to users who have DoH enabled as the default option. It does not apply for users who have made the choice to turn on DoH by themselves.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/canary-domain-use-appli...

I have no idea what DoH is but if the kid is smart enough to defeat the counter measures they deserve to watch the porn.

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