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> and most of the governments since them (and the current one) have been left-leaning (PSOE mostly).

False, they have been mostly alternating.

> And now, in Spain, the COVID-19 crisis has shown the inefficiency of the government

We are vaccinating way more per day than other EU countries, having surpassed in total vaccionations the USA and Germany (https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations).

> the unemployment is the highest in the last years

False, it's actually lowest than in the previous economical crisis (it peaked in 2013) and now there's COVID going on (https://www.epdata.es/datos/paro-espana-hoy-epa-ine/10/espan...).

> and the price of buying or renting a home is high as ever

Spain is one of the few EU countries where house prices have went only slightly up this year, compared to the notable increases in others, which are more than double the net increase (https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...).

> Ideological propaganda (left-leaning mostly) is very much alive in Spain.

To complain about propaganda, you're sharing a fair bunch yourself.

The government downplayed the COVID-19 pandemic and allowed marches, concerts and meeting of big groups of people (the VOX political party meeting for example). The government also seized the healthcare competences of the autonomous communities, only to be revealed that they were incompetent, and make old people die in assisted living facilities.

There is an all time high unemployment in young people…

You can’t take the prices of the last year when many people started working from home, and leaving big cities, and hence rent has decreased.

Left leaning propaganda is pretty much alive in Spain, where you can’t criticize the left without being labeled as “facha” (as this case).

> The government also seized the healthcare competences of the autonomous communities, only to be revealed that they were incompetent, and make old people die in assisted living facilities.

Eh, there have been compaints from both left and right that the competences left to the autonomous communities have done more harm than good. To say they have not had a lot of competences is misleading, they do have a lot more decision power than in other countries. Spain is de facto very decentralized.

> There is an all time high unemployment in young people…

Indeed, but unemployment overall is not the highest in the last years. You need to be specific when talking about data.

> You can’t take the prices of the last year when many people started working from home, and leaving big cities, and hence rent has decreased.

Yet in most of other EU countries it has went up sharply. We're not doing as bad as you think.

> Left leaning propaganda is pretty much alive in Spain, where you can’t criticize the left without being labeled as “facha” (as this case).

Honestly I agree with you here, but still, you can't say misleading statements that contradict the data. If we want to see real improvement the first step is looking at data and being honest about it.

Having countries with more unemployment, worse vaccination rates, or higher house prices doesn't make the situation "good".

You are cherry picking statistics to say that Spain is better than other countries. Being better off than Afghanistan doesn't make you a great country.

The thing is that the self-called Spanish left has disappointed its voters and blamed every problem on Franco and male sexism.

>False, they have been mostly alternating.

PP is left leaning. They haven't had a conservative or libertarian ideology in decades, perhaps never. So basically most of our democracy has been a parade of left leaning governments, especially the last 25 years.

If PP looks "left leaning" to you, it's pretty clear where you stand.

If this government that has increased the cost of life seems to you to be left-leaning, it’s clear where you stand.

In the... Right? :P

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