UFOs: 'These objects show physics we don't understand'

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27609973

If I was suddenly magically in charge of the investigation to figure out what was really happening I'd probably continue all existing lines of inquiry anf then as secretly as possibly also try to hire a team of magicians and known inventors of magic tricks and ask them to try to reproduce it.

After all, Clarkes third law says:

- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

and a variation says:

- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo

Am I serious? Oh yes, world class magicians have decades of experience in fooling multiple keenly interested observers and at least certain "sensor platforms" (i.e. top of the line cameras) simultaneously.

All it requires is a powerful particle accelerator and a willingness to “[dump] a high energy proton beam into the atmosphere [creating] a glowing ball of plasma.”[1]

These balls of plasma could be coaxed to behave in very unusual ways, and would likely have a oval or round shape depending on a viewer’s perspective.

Lots of interesting and tangentially related bits on Bob Lazar/Area 51 (Bob has to stick to his story to stay out of jail, and Area 51/Groom lake is heavily associated with radar evading technologies like stealth, SR-71/OxCart, so experimenting with plasma balls by shooting a particle accelerator high into the atmo seems way more of a practical explanation than aliens or super exotic tech)

His idea that the ginormous black triangles that people have reported are also radar experiments is pretty compelling as well when compared to the alien explanation.

[0] https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strang...

[1] https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strang...

We saw an object way off in the distance, on the other side of the mountain-line shoot straight up from behind the mountains.

We stopped to watch it, and our Commander was a former mechanic on the SR-71, so we asked him what it was.... It was back-lit by a full moon at the time and perfectly clear skies.

He mumbled "im not sure yet..."

And within literally 2 seconds - the craft was hovering directly above us. It was the typical TR-3B type design, triangle with lights at the corners and one in the middle.

However this thing was MASSIVE.

It was larger than two of the Hangar rows at the airport, was hovering about 50 feet above us, 100% silent, and it slowly rotated a few degrees counter-clockwise as we watched it.

Our Commander quickly ushered us inside "EVERYONE INSIDE NOW!"

and we all scurried to get back to our office hangar...

He would never speak of the incident. But to this day, I will never forget the image of that thing floating above us, and just how immense this thing was.

First of all, these training exercises have the highest concentration of military-grade sensors in the world. In the history of the world. And I don’t mean that in the cliche way that military-grade sensors are good per se. Just that civilian sensors designed to detect hiding aircraft don’t really exist.

And you only get these concentrations in training exercises because the world’s most cutting edge military hasn’t had a war against a technologically advanced opponent in decades. Decades during which those sensors have become increasingly sensitive and networked with a greater quantity of supplementary data sources and somewhat complex algorithms for blending data from many sensors. All of which means of course it’s a military detection, and of course it’s a training exercise (DOD would also almost certainly not release operational information, even in summary, so we can safely assume any detections in an operational environment remain classified).

The part that really stood out, and that I'd missed last time, was him saying that these observations by military pilots were all within military zones on both coasts.

That kinda does make the secret military program assumption more likely. That's not to say they haven't been testing that tech elsewhere, but it does make sense they'd do that. Certainly more than aliens doing it for shits and giggles.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/mar/18/pop-up-enabl...

[2] https://metro.co.uk/2021/07/05/the-ocean-is-on-fire-gas-leak...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxYmm5yCJBg

More likely if we get contact with aliens they will be "angels" or other supernatural entities for us... or protozoa equivalent to life on earth 50,000 years ago or more.

I think Episode 4~6 are the pinnacle of the series, but the rest are not bad. How old is your kid?

I'd not heard of these before but that sure does sound like it could be what those military videos are showing and I have to agree that it's likely "the most plausible explanation" I've heard yet.

>It is unlikely the Pentagon would release videos of their own secret weapon in a bizarre double bluff. But other nations may have their own version. In the early 1990s the Russians claimed that they could produce glowing ‘plasmoids’ at high altitude using high-power microwave or laser beams; these were intended to disrupt the flight of ballistic missiles, an answer to the planned American ‘Star Wars’. Nothing came of the project, but the technology may have been refined for other applications in the subsequent decades.

And I would agree that the Navy wouldn't risk causing an indecent by surreptitiously testing secret technology on it's own ships, especially near areas with civilian air traffic.

Could it be a foreign nation deploying a similar technology? Also highly doubtful. This would require a foreign military to either regularly sail ships or fly into US waters or very close to it, emit these plasma lasers for extended periods of time and sail/fly out undetected. The laser induced plasma effects theory would have to account for this somehow to be viable.

But that doesn't answer the biggest problem with "ufos are aliens" theory: why do you think the unexplained phenomena must be explained by aliens?