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> disseminate propaganda

What are the criteria to label things as "disseminating propaganda"?

Also, you'd follow the laws. Doing such thing as you suggested violates a lot of US laws.

And in fact, China does have laws to force operators to follow other Chinese laws, including censorship laws. Technically, Google and FB and all those banned firms are leaving China voluntarily because they decide not profitable to follow those laws.

So if certain laws are passed to shut out Chinese propaganda outlets, that'll be totally fine.

But again, this will be banning individual outlets, not just platforms. China probably will retaliate to bann individuals as well.

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> What are the criteria to label things as "disseminating propaganda"?

Pretty much anything out of China?

Because, you know, it's allowed to get out of China.

I am asking the criteria as the factual characters, not its source...

But I understand you. CCP labels everything coming from USA as propaganda as well. I do see you and a lot of US people share a lot of common values of CCP, a bit ironically...

> I am asking the criteria as the factual characters, not its source...

Yes, I understood that; that's why that was what I replied to. See also:

> > And in fact, China does have laws to force operators to follow other Chinese laws, including censorship laws. [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27658931 ]

China has censorship laws. Therefore, anything that is allowed out of China is what China's censorship allows. The purpose of censorship is to suppress anything that could be construed as negative about the regime, i.e. allow only what is positive, i.e. propaganda.

Hope that clears it up for you?

> But I understand you.

Actually, I sincerely doubt that.

> CCP labels everything coming from USA as propaganda as well. I do see you and a lot of US people share a lot of common values of CCP, a bit ironically...

Yeah, right. And for condemning Stalin, I must be Hitler; for condemning Hitler, I must be Stalin. For condemning both, I must be both Hitler and Stalin!

Take that tired old propagandist trope and shove it somewhere, mr People's Democratic Justice.

A blanket ban of all Chinese content would be acceptable to me.

Why?

No one read Chinese in USA anyway. People are quite ignorant here. Had little appetite for alternative views, let alone content written in the most difficult language on earth...

CCP propaganda is in English, of course, and they openly run advertisements on the New York Times[0], despite NYT being blocked in China. You can also find numerous videos from state-owned media on YouTube, where they put some Uyghurs on camera to talk about how good life is in Xinjiang, as well as Twitter accounts that peddle apologia for concentration camps.[1]

There's no reason America should allow China to peddle propaganda on platforms that are blocked in China.

[0]: https://freebeacon.com/media/nyt-quietly-scrubs-chinese-prop...

[1]: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-twitter/twitter-loc...

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