Ironic. I don't suppose they will allow Twitter, Facebook etc in China after this.
Ironic. I don't suppose they will allow Twitter, Facebook etc in China after this.
So you are saying they are not blocked by the GFW?
Or TikTok would change their business to operate within the limits of the new regulation, which is something that cannot happen with an outright ban. A good compromise is to do like the EU with GDPR and not ban companies directly but still require them to comply with local privacy laws if they want to access the market. Foreign companies that don't want to do it can simply block European users (effectively self-censoring themselves).
A.K.A government surveillance and anti-privacy rules. For instance, I believe various data leaks have proved that Chinese police (down to the local level) get a literal feed of all public and private social media messages sent over Chinese apps. There's also a video floating around of some poor schmuck locked in a tiger chair by some Chinese police, being forced to apologize for talking smack about them in a private chat.
Separate and nuanced issue, as you pointed out. But not complete.
What they mean by “exit the market” is to still actually participate in the market but not take on any of its obligations (again, despite my own disagreement with the “obligations”)
They're really not. This is why Google exited China. The reason why some American tech firms don't operate in China isn't because they can't handle regulatory compliance (they obviously can given their size and resources), they don't operate in China because complying with Chinese laws would create absolutely bad PR in the United States.
Which means this is not an issue of free-trade but of internal US politics between domestic companies and the public. The United States states isn't treated unfairly, it's just for the first time experiencing what it means to not be able to enforce American standards abroad.
You finally brought up Google, we didnt. Google is the primary example of the anticompetitive nature, where the state used its mandatory backdoors to steal IP from Google and give it to Baidu.
Mmm bad PR ok, possible a factor
It is completely understandable that foreign companies are staying out of China, because China effectively bans them from operating unless they are local companies.
I've never heard of this, do you have examples? I'll be happy to read about it. Normally there will be some PR/communication office under marketing sure, but I don't know what a 'political arm' could be.
Article 19: In a company, an organization of the Communist Party of China shall be established to carry out the activities of the party in accordance with the charter of the Communist Party of China. The company shall provide the necessary conditions for the activities of the party organization.
However, I don't think think this can be filed under "hostility to foreigners", since Chinese companies are subject to the same requirements.
It simply means a company should allow party members to form smallest units (if >3 people) and organise events according to party rules.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-congress-companies/...
Episode link (w/ transcript): https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/14/podcasts/the-daily/apple-...
Reciprocity legislation isn’t a bad idea. Chinese companies operating in the U.S. must transfer technology to a local affiliate, pay for a DoC agent to be on site, et cetera.
I think it's something like all of them. Being a superpower isn't free. Besides the lopsided defense commitments, IIRC, the US deliberately negotiated domestically disadvantageous trade deals in order to shape of the first world/international economic order.
This is pure propaganda. There is absolutely no difference. Both steal your data, both will cause you trouble at border control ( see obligation to give your phone for searching at US border some years ago).
All global superpowers sometimes ban cartoon characters for hurting their leaders’ feelings! No differences.
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855
The claim there is absolutely no difference is self-evidently untrue. There’s no member of the CCP who would claim such a thing. The US and China are very different places with very different cultures, which gets reflected in their respective laws.
Talking about some principle your opponent isn’t adhering to while violating it at the same time is common place. It’s the same tactic as when China says “how dare the US criticize our actions when they have racial issues of their own”. Of course ignoring that the China human rights violation is official government policy while the US is a policy violation and clearly rejected by the population and government.