> you can't start a war lose and then cry that you lost territory. ... That's how countries form, that's how borders are made.
Actually, according to international law, you cannot lose territory by war, even if you started it. I'm sure you think this is absurd, but it really is necessary.
https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?N...
“Without this absolute prohibition, acquisitive states would have a strong incentive to obfuscate the origins of the territorial acquisition, leading us backwards to the days when borders were impediments to overcome, rather than frontiers to respect.”
Also, once you occupied someone else's territory (necessarily for a temporary period) to transfer your own civilian population in it is a war crime:
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v1_rul...
"The prohibition on deporting or transferring parts of a State’s own civilian population into the territory it occupies is set forth in the Fourth Geneva Convention.[1] It is a grave breach of Additional Protocol I.[2] Under the Statute of the International Criminal Court, “the transfer, directly or indirectly, by the Occupying Power of parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies” constitutes a war crime in international armed conflicts."
> They didn't want a Jewish state at all, or be under Jewish rule.
Let's not be disingenuous here. Palestinians could never be part of a Jewish state, because Israel is a Jewish nation and a democracy. It simply cannot include millions of Palestinians as citizens- and I don't mean it as a critique (I also come from a national state formed out of a preexistent ethnic, linguistic and religious unity). It's a matter of fact. Israel wanted the land but not its original population ("the bride and the dowry" - https://www.amazon.com/Bride-Dowry-Israel-Palestinians-After... )
> it's just that most of those countries annihilated the other side long ago so there is almost no one left to hear their voice...
So you think that Jews now have a right to do the evil they didn't get to before, because they didn't have a nation when conquers and pillage were still accepted?