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Well, you have Matrix and XMPP (+OMEMO), but obviously the adoption for those is even lower than Signal. It's just sad is all.

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Yeah, still, the biggest issue was carriers (especially US ones) actively fighting against preloaded messaging clients and attempting to "compete" with their own (see Verizon RCS saga). Matrix doesn't help you if carrier refuses to sell phones that feature it preinstalled.

Yeah, I understand. It's a whole mess.

I've never really understood the US model of carriers selling phones on contracts with stuff bundled. Ideally they wouldn't have any say in these matters, but that is how it is.

IIRC matrix was started because of how terrible RCS is.

This is true. Matrix was a direct reaction to our experiences having just implemented RCS 5.1.

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