Have any social psychologists studied this phenomenon? It's a great defense mechanism that seems to be working quite well.
Have any social psychologists studied this phenomenon? It's a great defense mechanism that seems to be working quite well.
I don't know where you have been for over the past 5 years, but not only did some of those not disappear, they had a massive resurgence (in the US/Canada, at least).
"Emo rap" has been all the hotness over the past 5 years, just look at artists like Lil Uzi Vert or Frank Ocean. Skrillex, one of the most successful producers and artists of our time, went back to his original emo rock band and recorded a single with them to a wide applause. Goth-related discussions have seen continuous increase in numbers on social media.
>Most of the people who would have fallen in one of the aforementioned groups a decade ago are now non-binary, gender fluid, etc.
I don't see how those things are mutually exclusive. Plenty of non-binary/genderfluid/etc. people would count themselves as a part of those groups, just like cis/straight people would.
I will give it to you with scene and hipsters disappearing, but "hipster" as a term has been used almost always with negative connotations (as others in this thread have pointed out already the specifics of why people scoffed at "hipsters" as used the term as an insult). Even at the peak of popularity of that term, I don't recall almost anyone using it to refer to themselves, though this point is entirely subjective and anecdotal on my end.
The point you were trying to make would have been indeed interesting to look into, if the reality matched a bit closer with what you were claiming was happening to those emo/goth/etc. groups.
They definitely almost disappeared, but had a small resurgence, not massive.
>"Emo rap" has been all the hotness over the past 5 years, just look at artists like Lil Uzi Vert or Frank Ocean. Skrillex,
This is hilariously wrong, nowhere near reality. Frank Ocean doesn't have a single reference to "emo" anything on his Wikipedia page. Skrillex is solidly EDM/dubstep, not emo.
>Skrillex, one of the most successful producers and artists of our time, went back to his original emo rock band and recorded a single with them to a wide applause.
That barely made a blip, not even 3 million listens on YouTube and Soundcloud.
>I don't see how those things are mutually exclusive. Plenty of non-binary/genderfluid/etc. people would count themselves as a part of those groups, just like cis/straight people would.
The entire non-binary wave didn't really come about until the outlets of being emo/scene/goth ran out. Being non-binary in 2018 was the same as being emo/goth/scene in 2008.
>The point you were trying to make would have been indeed interesting to look into, if the reality matched a bit closer with what you were claiming was happening to those emo/goth/etc. groups.
It has matched reality, almost to the T. Frank Ocean being emo is not reality.
Having a name for something can be powerful.
> Scene, hipster, emo, goth, etc. all but disappeared.
Have you not noticed what's replaced these? We have hundreds of subcultures: weebs, dank memers, bronies, demoscene, lifehackers, outside, Bitcoin, competitive Pokémon… What you're seeing is a change in who you're bullying, not a change in reality.
Not at all. People/children still bully each other, always have, always will. Now they can easily bully each other through social media, relentlessly.
>Have you not noticed what's replaced these? We have hundreds of subcultures: weebs, dank memers, bronies, demoscene, lifehackers, outside, Bitcoin, competitive Pokémon… What you're seeing is a change in who you're bullying, not a change in reality.
You may have missed the "etc." part of my original post. Weebs, bronies, Pokemon/gamers, etc. were all alive and well during the scene/emo/etc. times, they weren't "replaced", they live concurrently.
Something else is going on, but it's definitely not "bullying is no longer socially-acceptable". It hasn't been "socially-acceptable" for decades at this point.
Scenes require supporting media. In the age of print and broadcast, access to media was comparably limited. Consequently, the number of scenes was comparably limited. The "something" that happened was the general public learning how the internet could be used to easily publish media for as many scenes as people could think of. It's now feasible for individuals to globally publish media regardless of how many other people are interested in it.
If anything, it's the complete reverse. Scenes were more localized and had many different variations and unique cultures.
> The "something" that happened was the general public learning how the internet could be used to easily publish media for as many scenes as people could think of.
Which lead to a great consolidation, something we see in other areas as well. Regional cultures become less and less stark as national TV/news came about.
>It's now feasible for individuals to globally publish media regardless of how many other people are interested in it.
Which means the other scenes die out, and a predominant one appears. That's why you see flags and pronouns all across Twitter, but nothing much else. It's also why American culture is being exported globally, destroying unique cultures in its wake.
Large groups have broken into smaller groups because people are less required to be a part of a large group to be accepted.
I'd say the opposite: disparate groups have ceased to exist as they got consolidated into the larger group. You see this more often across all cultures as the information age has come around.
Most of those are not new... "egirls", fuckbois, etc. were all around back then as well. These groups are somewhat non-related, since many of the listed groups are not mutually exclusive. You can have a fuckboi influencer, vsco egirls, etc.