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I personally am not interested in the Cybertruck until it gets more mainstream. The thing is a target for every disgruntled driver who sees it in a parking lot. Telsa's already seem to be targeted frequently[0]. I don't need that kind of grief in my life.

0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzpNC2zMAys (dramatic, but there are plenty more of these kinds of videos)

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I planned on jumping straight to a diesel Prius.

That way both sides hate me.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0QXTKWBtke8

Nah, that's just boring. Go with a diesel Insight. There have been a few diesel swaps on the 1st gen Insights that manage the same or better fuel economy than the gas hybrid version.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/38291/this-2000-honda-insight-...

The Honda hybrid tech of that time is a lot easier to swap engines on. A Prius has the motors in the transmission, so it's harder to simply bolt a new engine on. You'd have to either drive the transaxle with your own control algorithms, or figure out another way to make it behave with a different engine. The Honda electric motor was on the engine crankshaft, and you could get the Insight with a manual transmission, so it's really just "bolt in the motor and go."

But of course you'd get a diesel Prius or Insight only to be "rolling coal" with it.

EDIT: Sorry, only watched the YouTube clip now -- OMG, seems that was the purpose! Sheesh, you think you're making an obviously absurd jokey take on something... America, you never (cease to) disappoint.

Anecdotally, macho gearhead types seem to generally respect the premise diesel-electrics, because freight trains. Because it's been so successful in locomotives, these sort see diesel-electric as proven, powerful, and sufficiently macho.

Honestly this happens to all cars and it's hardly evidence people target Tesla's more than any other brand.

Beware of getting your information from youtube.

The Cybertruck stands out. Things that stand out get targeted. I don't want my car to be targeted. It's that simple for me.

No, this is a good thing.

All Tesla's have cameras running on them nearly all the time. Any "disgruntled" driver who does any amount of various illegal things to them can easily be found and punished in the legal system. Quickest way to end the bullshit.

In Germany, this would probably end badly for the owner of the car doing the filming in a public space and the vandal would probably walk free with his/ her legal fees getting paid by the owner of the car, if the vandal would caught at all. It is illegal to monitor a public space and violates personality rights.

A reasonable judge might perhaps give the owner of the car a hefty fine for violating personal rights and order the vandal to pay for the damage. IANAL. Either way, I don't see it as a winning strategy to film anything in a public space in Germany, it will get you in trouble and will most likely not solve anything.

I think vandalism is the kind of thing that cannot be excused in adults. Certainly damaging anybody's car on purpose is something only a complete idiot would do.

It is illegal ? So when are they shutting down all those cameras in Berlin, apparently its the second most surveilled city in Europe after London: https://www.statista.com/chart/19268/most-surveilled-cities-...

After they've shut down the police for impersonating the police.

So these are all police cameras ?

Either that or people/entities surveiling their own ground.

I do not think that Tesla would be making a gigafactory in Germany if they were to make them disable a primary feature of the car.

I could be wrong. I don't know, but I've never heard of anybody bringing up this issue.

The German take on privacy in public spaces is obviously absurd and needs to be adjusted.

On paper I'm the type of person who ought to be interested in a cybertruck but I'm finding myself a lot more interested in the Ford F-150 Lightning.

Same here. Being in the UK means getting an F150 is pretty unlikely as I'd be worried about it fitting on some of our roads, but it is far more appealing than the cybertruck even for me as a soft, liberal tech worker.

When Tesla first introduced the cyber truck they were unsure about the demand and also unsure about the 4680 cell manufacturing. Both of these are now settled. It's not impossible that Tesla will drop the prices substantially when they finally go on sale.

Considering that they said 12-18 months more for volume 4680 production, I don't think that is settled yet.

Tesla wouldn't be using the 4680 in the model Y if the 4680's status was in doubt.

That's a pretty optimistic take given their past history with big shifts like this. Maybe they will start by using cells from their partners, though.

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