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You have to be kidding me, right? This app is so bloated and unpolished—it really doesn't feel like it belongs on the Mac. I'll take OSX Lion's sleek Terminal.app over iTerm any day. My favorite new feature, it lets you customize ANSI colors!

Screenshot of Lion Terminal:

http://akhun.com/seo/skitch/kenneth_%E2%80%94_vim-20110707-1...

Edit: I know I'm going to get tons of downvotes for this. But it's my opinion that something sleek and simple is much more powerful than something with tons of bells and whistles, especially when it doesn't look very good.

Edit2: To all those who bring up window splitting, the default terminal app does it too, as well as native fullscreen:

http://akhun.com/seo/skitch/Screen_Shot_2011-07-07_at_12.30....

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My iTerm2 looks exactly like that screenshot, and is available now (unlike Lion).

I think only a few things in iTerm2 are really unpolished. That said, when a tool becomes part of how you do work for 14+ hours a day, feature-set and efficiency can matter more than simplicity and intuitiveness. After all, that's why we're using a command line in the first place! Terminal itself doesn't really "feel like it belongs on the Mac".

I wouldn't want to spend all that time in a terminal without native screen splitting, just to pick one example of a cool iTerm 2 feature.

Lion's terminal app is a beach ball nightmare on this machine. Hitting tab to complete a directory in bash results in a 3-second pause every time. Longer if the directory doesn't exist.

I wondered if it was my new SSD, but it doesn't happen in iTerm, so I guess not.

May I ask what is so bloated and unpolished? Back up your dribbling. I have been using iTerm for a while now and it's as fast normal Terminal. It has profiles. It has 256 colors so I can use the same VIM colorschemes.

C'mon, please at least share with everyone what features you find are "bloat".

Have you used it recently? It was really buggy/slow a few months ago, but has improved drastically.

I've been using it since last 7 months. This version definitely seems speedier, I'm talking about the lags in bringing up new tabs/windows in previous versions.

Moreover I love the simplicity of its key combinations - CMD + left right.

CMD+^+E -> A nice expose style overview for all your tabs.

Though their search is horribly slow.

I really like Profiles and Split Horizontally/Vertically

btw, your second screenshot shows a fake vertical split, the vertical split is from vim, not from Terminal.app

What are these downvotes you speak of?

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