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Interesting tidbit: the hash they have for the infringed work it's the correct hash for ubuntu-20.04.2.0-desktop-amd64.iso [0] - this removes any good faith argument on their part.

There is an infinitely small chance of collisions - but I would like them to produce a DMCA notice with the actual name of the infringed upon protected media, not just the hash.

I believe Canonical should step in, since this is someone claiming to act to protect their interests.

[0] https://torrent.ubuntu.com/tracker_index

Edit: searching for the hash returns two odd links; the first one is indexed by Google as a link to a software - Rebirth - that comes under the same hash as Ubuntu [1]; the other is the usual Lumen link for removed content [2] -- a DMCA notice from Disney.

Could this be a case of "automated DMCA notice" gone wrong?

[1] https://kat.rip/torrent/4ba4fbf7231a3a660e86892707d25c135533... [2] https://www.lumendatabase.org/notices/22636605?access_token=...

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I was interested and also searched the hash ( 4ba4fbf7231a3a660e86892707d25c135533a16a ).

I didn't see the second link you posted? and I can't find the hash by CTRL+F on the page when clicking the link?

Am I missing something?

You can see the results I see [0] -- and I am now on a different device.

That's the Ubuntu torrent - with the correct hash - but indexed by Google as a Rebirth torrent. At the bottom of the page [1] there is a link to the Lumen Database.

The first link has the hash in the URL. The Lumen Database one - even if I look at the full URLs - doesn't have the hash in the list. I am guessing that one of the pages had a link to the Ubuntu torrent.

This seems like a good reminder that Google decides what we see out of the interwebs!

[0] https://postimg.cc/30R85HHy [1] https://postimg.cc/Z9MjF8K1

Definitely a good reminder. I only see [0] (I'm only including the bottom bit, it doesn't appear in the rest of the page either) which doesn't appear to have it.

Thanks for resolving my "not happening on my machine" issue! :)

[0] https://postimg.cc/kVsGC5Yk

It's on the [0] link, with the line

4ba4fbf7231a3a660e86892707d25c135533a16a ubuntu-20.04.2.0-desktop-amd64.iso 2.67GiB 120 8 1 2.67GiB

yep, but the comment I replied to said they searched for the hash and found [2] (I presume they searched on google from context).

When I search for the hash I don't find [2] coming up in my search results, and when I click through to [2] I don't see the hash in the page.

Pardon for my misinterpretation. Although I don't use google much these days, but I'd assume it be due to location/preference tailor.

And yes, I don't see the hash in the page too, I should read it more carefully before commenting. Sorry for the confusion.

No worries, simple mistake. (I felt that I probably wasn't clear enough with my comment!).

I haven't downloaded the torrent (and won't download it), but looking at the kat link, something weird is going on here. It says the torrent was uploaded and last updated 5 years ago in the video category of the site? Ubuntu 20.04 was released in, well, April of 2020. Unless I'm missing something that torrent can't possibly be Ubuntu 20.04, but it sure lines up that it could be Rebirth (2016) after all.

I downloaded the torrent from KAT and confirmed that the filename and hash match the Ubuntu torrent. It appears that some metadata on that site is incorrect.

93bdab204067321ff131f560879db46bee3b994bf24836bb78538640f689e58f /mnt/downloads/ubuntu-20.04.2.0-desktop-amd64.iso

Interesting.

If someone were to intentionally publish indexes that associate pirate titles with non-pirate SHAs, I imagine they’d be able to cause a lot of trouble for the DMCA takedown industry.

Who knows, maybe that's exactly what happened here. Could be a vigilante trolling the copyright trolls. (Not all copyright firms are necessarily trolls. The ones that recklessly automate things so heavily that they'd make this mistake probably are, though.)

It's an incorrect HTML title ("Download Rebirth 2016 HDRip XviD AC3-EVO Torrent - Kickass Torrents") on the Ubuntu ISO download on kickasstorrents.

Could it be some pictures or sound or some firmware blob or something like that this is in that particular ISO is the actual content they consider to be pirated ?

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