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It's worrisome to me that one of the stated objections I've seen to Freenode's new owner is related to his personal politics: https://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_461

My own personal politics are probably very very similar to the above author who was complaining about the new owner being "Trumpian", but what will happen if/when we disagreed about something? Would I get the boot from Libera? I totally don't care about Orange Man's fans enough to leave a network over it.

e: You gotta appreciate the irony of which group is censoring me right here with downvote-as-disagree :)

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I don't think they mean "Trumpian" in the sense of "a Trump supporter". But I understand your worry.

I agree. The author likely meant that Lee is acting like Trump in the sense that the method being used is mean and destructive.

IDK man, it's not just politics. Trump supporters also often seem to be misogynistic/bigoted/racist. Are those the kinds of people you want being in charge of online communities?

That person is completely within their rights to not want to work for someone like that.

> Are those the kinds of people you want being in charge of online communities?

As long as they do a good job running the servers and don't censor me, sure. Life's too short for me to add more hate to the world in anticipation of receiving hate even though I am several flavors of minority in the tech world.

To be fair (and I'm not a Trump fan), there's more than one reason someone might support Trump.

I know a fair number of people who supported Trump because he was a departure from the Bush/Clinton oligopoly and promised no more "wars like Iraq." He also promised to push back on grossly unfair trade policies with China.

Had Trump not run in 2016 it's entirely likely that we would have had, starting in 1992: Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama (more or less Clinton), and then a race between (drum roll...) Bush and Clinton!

Though I gotta say... many of them didn't vote for Trump the second time because even if he did have a few good points his personality is too repellent and humiliating to tolerate.

Voting for trump and being a trump supporter is not the same thing though. If someone is publicly saying that they're a supporter, that means that they support trump's policies and practices. Which includes bigotry.

I voted for Joe Biden, but do not support all his policies and positions.

Racism is awful, but American racism has not killed anywhere from 500k to 1m people (depending on who is counting) recently. The Iraq war did that along with setting fire to over a trillion dollars.

Sometimes I think Trump was worth it to make sure nobody named Bush or Clinton ever inhabits the White House again.

I agree with you, although it would be nice if there were some real sources instead of just a pile of invective.

I'm not sure what you want sources for?

Trump being racist? Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/FragileWhiteRedditor/comments/ecajm...

So people who support him are also probably racist, or at least okay with him being racist.

Personally I don't think racism is a binary. Trying to bucket people into racist and not-racist seems like an overly-simplistic way to look at humans.

I don't see how being even a little racist is good in any way. I honestly feel like a lot of people don't realise what being subjected to racism is like in our present day.

Where did I say it was good? :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovF1zsDoeM

No. The Freenode guy.

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