I'm sure every community is different, though, as you would expect in the absence of widespread remote communications.
I'm sure every community is different, though, as you would expect in the absence of widespread remote communications.
“Live in the world without being of the world.” There are many interpretations of that.
There were noticeable differences community to community, often less than a mile away. Things like their stance on modern technology, plain dress, etc.
At the same time it was considered a huge deal that the bride & groom came from different communities as they had conflicting theological views. I forget the key difference but it was something smaller than I experienced as a child whenever we'd change Roman Catholic Churches.
just curious what do you mean by changing Roman Catholic churches? As far as i know there is only one roman catholic church, but with different dogma's depending on region.
For instance, this was all post Vatican II but close enough that some were very much still old timey in feel and others felt more contemporary. Another example stems from the homilies the priests would give, each individual would have their own spin on things and that can have a huge impact on atmosphere.
Specifically what I meant by my comment: my recollection was that some of the key differences in those anabaptist congregations I mentioned tied to physical layout during service. Who sat where, who stood where, etc. Those were the sorts of things that was always a bit different parish to parish in my experience attending mass at a number of RC parishes.
[1] https://canonlawmadeeasy.com/2007/09/20/are-they-really-cath...
No there aren’t; your source seems to have confused the descriptor “Roman Catholic Church” which refers to the entire body in union with Rome for what is usually described, where it needs to be distinguished, as “Latin Church” [0], the autonomous particular sui iuris church within the Roman Catholic headed by the Patriarch of Rome (who, as Pope, is also head of the entire Roman Catholic Church, with superceding authority over the heads of the sui iuris churches.)
[0] formerly also commonly “Western...” but the use of that descriptor has since been fairly authoritatively declared as no longer approrpriate.
In my experience, some Eastern Catholics reject the term "Roman Catholic" as a descriptor for themselves because they associate the phrase with the second definition not the first. Given that, I'm not inclined to agree with you that the "Roman Catholic=Latin Catholic" usage is wrong, it's just different.
There is one Roman Catholic Church and its dogmas (and even mere doctrines) are the same everywhere. There are several autonomous particular churches sui iuris within the Roman Catholic Church, and within them many local particular churches, and within them many smaller units called churches, all of which vary in a greater or lesser extent in practices and traditions (but not dogma or doctrine.)
Some Amish communities allow electricity but not in the house. For example, they may accept electric milking equipment for cows, and have electricity to power that, but the electricity connection is only to the milking shed not to the residence. Or, they may own a business, and connect their business premises to electricity, but not the house.
Lots of places.
The term "the Amish" is so broad that it is largely meaningless, unless everything you know is based on stereotypes.
See also: "The Americans," and "The Christians."
You and I are both "HN Users," but I suspect very different. I wouldn't want to be judged based on your lifestyle just because we both belong to this group.
It's not like I got a detailed life history from these people, but if you ever get the chance, the level of culture shock can be striking. The biggest event of my time there was the neighbor's horse that was used to drive the plows sustaining an enormous gash on its front right leg. That effectively stopped work as people rushed to try and stitch it up. With no machinery, they're entirely reliant on horses to accomplish any meaningful field work, so a serious injury to one can severely impact yield.
They are prepared for that, though. Thanks to not making much in the way of purchases of virtually anything from the outside world, resources only flow in so they have a surplus of everything they need to last years if they need to hunker down. Any form of community wealth is entirely kept in the community, so there were apparently some fairly vast intergenerational savings built up.
So I don't know if the concern was really that being down a plow was going to have any material impact on anyone's ability to eat, but it was dramatic nonetheless. I didn't ask, but I got the impression the guy driving the plow was as distraught as he was because he considered the horse a friend. He seemed distressed by the amount of pain it was in.
If you feel astonished that someone is unfamiliar with something, that is an emotion best kept to yourself. I have learned this the hard way when people reacted poorly to my own expressions of astonishment.
Consider how someone might feel after hearing you say something like this:
"What??? You've never heard of tiramisu???"
(I'm not saying that's how you put it, just giving an example of an astonished reaction.)
Instead, meet them where they are and explain without judgment the unfamiliar term:
"Oh, tiramisu is a delicious Italian dessert. It's made with ladyfinger cookies, mascarpone, and coffee. Mascarpone is a soft creamy Italian cheese, often used in desserts, sometimes in savory dishes too. Would you like me to send you a tiramisu recipe? You will be in for a real treat!"
EDIT: Which, I see now, also quotes the xkcd strip.
As the article says, regardless of how you feel internally, choose the external action that is likely to give a happy interaction rather than an unhappy one.
I think you're expecting too much from others. I didn't grow up Amish, and although I did grow up in a non-assimilated insular religious community I've been living in Western secular society for about 10 years now.
The only Italian foods I can think of are pasta (I can name spaghetti and macaroni and lasagna and that's it) and pizza, which I knew of since childhood. Lately I've seen the word tiramisu around but I have no idea what it is. I think I saw it on a cake in a bakery and I assumed it was pretentious for chocolate but actually I don't know. I certainly didn't know it was Italian.
A bit more on topic, I'd generally agree that it's not so common as to be universal. I don't think I'd heard the word in any way that registered as significant before my mid-20s, and I'm certain I never tried it until my late 20s or early 30s. I grew up in the suburbs around Pittsburgh, PA with plenty of passable Italian restaurants -- but tiramisu simply wasn't a dessert people in my family ordered.
As for the animals, yes, it's pretty normal to bond with them and care about them, especially something like a horse.
It's definitely a completely different culture, though, no doubts about that.
HN tip: The reply link on new comments in a thread may not appear immediately. I think this is a measure to discourage heated back-and-forth replies.
But you can always click the "n minutes ago" link to open the individual comment and reply there.