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Personally I'm looking forward to scala native 1.0 more than anything else. We'll have a strong Haskell competitor. I dont like jvm.

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How is current Scala not actually a Haskell competitor today? Superficial dislike of a VM isn't a valid reason.

Haskell's runtime is just better for pure FP than the JVM. GHC's optimizations and general TCO go a long way.

‘Just better’ is not a valid argument. Better at what? Better for what use cases?

If we start to treat software like fashion, I don’t think we’re going to make very good decisions in the coming years.

I mean "just better" at every use-case? It eliminates the cost of functions where JVM languages cannot due to its limitations. I really don't think I'm treating software like fashion - I'm speaking from years of practical experience here.

The main thing FP on the JVM does better is be permitted by your employer lol. So if we're talking runtime vs runtime, there's no use-case. In general, it's all soft/social reasons.

Ah yes - you've reduced all of the JVM down to a terrible piece of software that doesn't power a tremendous portion of the software on planet Earth.

This is when I know to not consider a person's comments seriously. When they even wear their bias on their sleeve.

What about OCaml? Soon it'll finally have multicore (and an effect system!).

You can convert .class files directly to native.

https://dzone.com/articles/profiling-native-images-in-java

Scala native is not at all needed, you can already leverage graalVM native

Yeah, not at all easy though. Spent two days at work and didn't managed to get it done.

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