Then I lost some people, one of whom was worth a lot, and despite that still spent 40 some days on a ventilator, basically in hell, only to die pretty terribly.
While all this was going on, I am surrounded by people who think it is all fake, nobody is dying, etc...
I would tell about what I saw, felt and they would just ignore me, or ask me why more of that is not on the TV.
> While all this was going on, I am surrounded by people who think it is all fake, nobody is dying, etc...
The saddest, craziest stories are the ones who, while the tubes were going in, used their last voluntary breaths to cry “How is this happening? The virus is a hoax!” We need to have a serious reckoning with mental health in this country.
It is rough. I can see them question just about everything and feeling a little lonely, due to their peer group not identifying very well with their struggle.
Yeah, I had a couple loooooong nights deep breathing, eye on an oximeter. Was early enough to feel a lot of angst about going to the hospital! We were not good at treatment yet, people go in, die alone...
Woke me right the fuck up.
Not to say I was anti, but I had not really internalized what was happening. Was not as careful as I could have been. Definitely did not have all the info I could have had.
She OK, well connected to others and all that?
That gets better, but is a thing that does stay with us, changes us.
I need to be in touch often because of my own experiences. Hope she finds what she need to carry on and live well.
my partner could not give two trucks that i was sick. through the sleepless gasping nights where i was wondering if it was time to go to the hospital, my partner blamed it on anxiety. when i couldn't feel my feet, my partner thought it was due to me not eating (because food tasted like paper). this all culminated with my partner calling me lazy for sleeping all day. it really woke me up to their attitude and has reshaped the trajectory of our relationship. as of now it's pretty much just a show so our kids don't end up too messed up
And the incentives to push back on all this are super high!
People absolutely do not want to have to be bothered. Not all people, but the numbers are much higher than I expected.
In which case everything everyone here is saying has been blown out of proportion.
You are conflating outcomes with cases in progress.
To understand severity, work with outcomes and that is dead people divided by recovered people.
Infected people will eventually arrive at their outcome, but until they have actually ran their infection course, adding them into the risk assessment artificially marginalizes risk.
Early on, before we understood treatment, the outcome numbers, chance of someone dying was quite high, 7 percent or so depending.
It is currently a little over 1 percent and will likely improve as the science does, and our ability to treat cases is managed better. And that assumes we can get people vaccinated in high enough numbers to manage mutation rates.
So far, vaccinated people do not die. Vast improvement over the 1'ish percentage currently in play for unvaccinated people.
Without that, we run the very real risk of a mutation sending us back to the beginning.
I have had this exact conversation with people who died thinking their low risk assessment, dividing dead people by infected people, made sense.
It does not, and it does not because outcomes are being mixed in with cases in progress. It is like combining the wrong units and wondering why nature does not match the math.
As a side note, I implore people to watch police interaction videos and how often they are captured on video casually violating civil rights as standard operating procedure. YouTube has endless content of this. It will make you think twice about the reality of world you live in. If it bothers you, call your mayor or city government.
Video helps drive a point home emotionally, but it is not at all a source of less biased reporting. Driving a point home emotionally is important, and the point 'covid bad' seems like it needs to be driven home more. But don't believe news just cause it shows videos.
Oh absolutely. I was thinking more of citizen journalist videos which are typically uncut. One example I know of is when the news video has a hard cut, they're trying to manipulate it. This is pretty common, and they use it often when showing videos of people speaking.
In terms of a "graphic exposé on the reality of COVID" - if you haven't seen "76 Days" yet, I would strongly recommend it. It is a wincingly direct and raw documentary - no editorializing or narrative overlay, just real, high resolution footage of a city of millions of people fending off a deadly virus, shot in close quarters with the physicians attending to those dying and their families.
In what world do you live where you call the year long constant fear mongering "downplaying"?
That's when I started taking it seriously, 1 week later my country hit lockdown. This was somewhere in March.
The replies in that thread were along the lines of "Pffff...If everyone did that the Earth would stand still, idiot!"
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Those people are heroes.
"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - Orwell.