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Shorter work weeks, universal healthcare, affordable housing, open borders, freedom to travel, less consumerism, more time for friends/family...

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I thought countries that have most of those things seem to have as many problems with depression and anxiety?

And countries without those things perhaps don't?

Which are the correlations that actually matter?

nah... go look up quality of life ratings and you can see these countries do great.

I'm pretty sure that universal healthcare isn't compatible with open borders. Budgets aren't infinite.

Why do people assume open borders means freeloaders vs freedom?

As long as your country is offering something that 90% of Earth’s population lacks (access to high-quality free healthcare which is what people usually mean as “universal”) then, yes, you’re going to attract a lot of freeloaders.

No, no you won't. You will attract people who are committed to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

I wish I could believe this. Seems more like wishful thinking along the lines of America’s hubris that it could “bring democracy” to the Middle East.

There’s nothing magic about soil. You need to give time for waves of immigrants to integrate, or it leads to backlash and horrible people like Trump getting elected.

Open borders = unaffordable housing, no universal borders, less time for friends and family

One of these things is not like the other, one of these things does not belong

What does open borders have to do with the other things?

> open borders

No thanks. Feel free to go conduct extreme social experiments with your own life, not mine.

I wouldn’t call it extreme, as it has been done before. In the US, for example, borders were completely open for the first hundred years until anti-Chinese racism led to the passage of the Page Act in 1875.

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