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> Apple has been pretty transparent about the rules

I disagree. Apple doesn't let App developers to inform users about the 30% tax. How is that transparent?

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It does, though

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/11/apple-announces-app-s...

It’s not a secret at all, lol.

No. "Apple blocked Facebook from informing users that Apple would collect 30 percent of in-app purchases made through a planned new feature, Facebook tells Reuters. Apple said the update violated an App Store rule that doesn’t let developers show “irrelevant” information to users"

https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/28/21405140/apple-rejects-fa...

That’s a related, but separate issue. My point is that app developers know about the fees. Apple doesn’t hide them.

The issue you’re describing is more of whether Apple should allow App Store developers display messages to the end user of their apps saying that Apple is skimming off the top. Similar to how it would be if Apple said Visa will take 2% or whatever.

That makes sense for Apple but not for the Apple users, users pay more so users lose and Apple wins, this shit does not fly in other countries.

For example for currency exchanges we had laws(in Romania) that you have to print in giant fonts all the fees/taxes. The law was created because the giant text was showing some values and the fees were hidden or printed in small fonts somewhere unreadable.

IMO aa country could force Apple to print on their iPHone boxes something like (30% of your subscriptions or Farmwill gems go to Apple, buyer be aware that you can probably buy the subscriptions cheaper on the developer website but Apple won't allow them to show you the link because they are greedy)

If Apple users were harmed by this they would change platforms, no? Apple didn't always have phones, nor were they always a big presence in computing. Presumably they're doing something right, which is why people are buying their stuff.

Can you move your apps,movies, contacts from iOS ?

Can someone kept in the dark by App Store rules even know that he is screwed by Apple?

If Apple is harmed by this can chose not to sell in EU.

But that's the problem. Smart phones have a high level of friction to change operating systems. The phones are expensive and there is a decent amount of platform lock in. If developers want to have a profitable business they pretty much need to build for iOS or Android.

The developers are creating value for Apple by improving their app ecosystem but Apple is acting like they are doing the developers a favor.

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