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the first reports on this already appeared in august 2020, but somehow all mainstream outlets weren't too interested. They still weren't interested in October when the DOJ sent an inquiry about nursing homes or in January when the NY AG issued a report finding New York under counted deaths of nursing home and long-term care facility residents.

Meanwhile, CNN put him on the air, to be heralded as a great and inspiring leader by his own brother, a CNN mouth piece, that got state funded special treatment when he had covid. Now CNN simply refuses to report on it.

The media landscape is beyond broken in this country.

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They gave him a fucking Emmy in November:

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/1...

And he published a fucking book in October: https://www.amazon.com/American-Crisis-Leadership-COVID-19-P...

Broken doesn't even begin to describe it....

yes, unreal.

Also all this took place when he received a multi million dollar advance for his book "American Crisis: Leadership Lessons from the COVID-19 Pandemic", and remember this crazy thing https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/arts/design/cuomo-covid-p... how is any of this real?!?!

I assume anyone left watching 24 hour news channels is not very adept at critical thinking.

Yeah ... I hear otherwise intelligent friends (folks with PhDs, MDs, etc.) effectively parroting crap you would hear on their favorite news channel. You can tell what they watch by listening to what they say.

I think the "smarter" one is, the more gullible they are. As someone with a PhD, I try very hard not to be gullible ... I can't say I always succeed. But I am highly skeptical of everything I hear/read. That skepticism helps.

Being educated != being smart. Intelligence is a biological phenotype of neurological potential. It's distribution is set in stone across humanity. Being lucky and born into a family that can afford your higher education that will grant you a title has nothing to do with biological intelligence. In other words, a lot of very stupid people with PhDs and MDs can parrot mass media like the "low IQ" individuals that they are.

I don’t know if I’d go that far with the set in stone nature.

I’d just say that even if someone is educated well in one field - it doesn’t mean that they’re generally well educated or that they have good critical thinking skills outside of their field. I’m surrounded by PhDs - they’re all great at their field, terrible at everything else. Min/Maxed their stats very hard there.

>I don’t know if I’d go that far with the set in stone nature.

It's a stone that will only be moved by future technology. Perhaps a mastery of biology/neurology or more. Until then, it is essentially unchangeable.

I believe it has something to do with someones level of "institutionalization", or perhaps, how comfortable they are with institutions and authorities themselves.

A PhD holder is a PhD holder, at least in part, because they trusted that the many 1000's of hours of study and hard work they put into to receive a certificate from an institution was worth it. And this is because they, at some level, trust the institution itself.

Presumably this trust can also transfer to other "authorities", like US cable new media companies.

I don't see anyone talking about taking that emmy back. Or canceling him.

He has like 7 credible assault victims accusing him. And the "media" protects him.

Riddle me that. His ass should have been out on the sidewalk a long time ago.

The "media" is complicit.

>I don't see anyone talking about taking that emmy back. Or canceling him.

Look harder then. They're not difficult to find.

When you treat "media" as a monolithic, moving with unified purpose, you're going to make mistakes just like this one.

"media" is diverse enough that you kind people you can disagree with when you look. So it's no doubt true that there is media out there that is defending Cuomo. But that doesn't mean there is some vast conspiracy, or even wide spread collusion, as you seem to be implying.

> But that doesn't mean there is some vast conspiracy, or even wide spread collusion, as you seem to be implying.

Not even close to what I was saying.

And yes, the "media" as in the NBC variants, CNN, CBS, ABC, NPR, etc. seem to all mimic/amplify each others reporting. Doesn't need to be a conspiracy, and I don't think it is.

It is, however, a uniform political and cultural narrative, that actively defends itself from information that runs counter to it. Whether or not there is coordination is irrelevant. That this collection of "media" somehow manages to bury important (real) information, in favor of what they would like to say, is highly problematic for what one might call, actual news.

So no ... to your point, I do not believe the strawman you constructed and then swatted comes anywhere close to what I was specifically talking about. However, denial of the mutual reinforcement and exclusion of information that runs counter to their collective narrative ... that's a deep and fundamental failure of critical thinking.

> And yes, the "media" as in the NBC variants, CNN, CBS, ABC, NPR, etc. seem to all mimic/amplify each others reporting.

TIL by watching multiple DVR-ed news shows from the same night while visiting family...

It is eerie the extent to which the nightly national news stories are the nearly same across the various old networks. With a whole country of stories to pick from the network news is, anecdotally, 80%+ the same many nights. Not only the topics but also the story structure, the chosen sequence of video clips, etc.

It was particularly interesting to observe with respect to the Covington Catholic affair in which the whole of the media apparatus took the exact same still-frame out of context in exactly the same way all the while the actual 2 hour video was widely circulated and freely available on the Internet. For so many media outlets to make the exact same egregious error in such a short timeframe is remarkable. See also the Google Memo fiasco.

The media is as diverse as the set of their independent owners. And what you get from any news channel is the view its owners want to show you. Thinking otherwise is plain naive as I see it.

> I don't see anyone talking about taking that emmy back. Or canceling him.

Weirdly enough I didn't know he was given an Emmy but I have seen wall to wall coverage of the accusations against him and calls for him to resign from dozens of democrat leaders including the Senate Majority Leader.

SNL (pretty much centrist-liberal) has been trashing him on both fronts -- calling out the nursing home deaths on weekend update and even a very long cold open raking him over the coals for the abuse stuff.

Seth Meyers (easily the farthest left network host) has been dragging him hard on both fronts on Late Night as well.

The only opinions I've seen expressed by people in my social media sphere for months are that he's an absolute dirtbag - the man is canceled. I think the real point you are approaching is that most of the time "canceling" someone doesn't really do much.

I’ve noticed this really recently as well, but my conservative friends were pointing this out in 2020 back when he was on air with his brother.

Better late than never and all that, but I don’t see anything noble about waiting to speak out until it becomes politically untenable to wait any longer.

Reminds me of the collective shrug when Trudeau got caught in blackface multiple times. Good thing these guys didn’t do anything truly heinous like cracking their knuckles at work or or advocating for nonviolent protest or throwing their daughter a respectful geisha themed party. There seems to be a pattern in who gets targeted and it doesn’t seem to correlate with the severity of the offense.

What's wrong with that?

Emmys are usually given for works of fiction.

NPR covered the AG finding quite a bit

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/0...

As did The NY Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/nyregion/nursing-home-dea...

And CNN:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/28/us/new-york-nursing-homes-cov...

> the first reports on this already appeared in august 2020

Actually, it was covered in May of 2020 in the Daily Wire.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/ny-health-dept-admits-to-unde...

insane, I wonder how many have heard of this for the first time today or are still unaware because the mainstream media never picked it up or is memory-holing this

It is for precisely this reason that I built Read Across The Aisle, [1] a free app that incentivizes you to read news from both sides of the political spectrum.

The coverage bias on both sides is enormous, and there's enough news to cover that it's easy to overlook inconvenient truths (or relegate them to page B-47).

1: http://www.readacrosstheaisle.com

I've started following two sources to help address this for myself.

Tangle is a daily newsletter that provides links to coverage from both sides. VERY fair reporting. Ground News highlights stories that have been covered by only one side of the aisle.

https://www.readtangle.com/ https://ground.news/

One reason I see is that people, especially those from mainstream media, will just shrug Daily Wire off as "right-wing". "Right-wing" is such a wonderful stigmata. Quote the words, and gone is pursuit of truth.

Truth is treason in the empire of lies.

This was known in March-April, when he rammed through a bill to give himself emergency powers and one that indemnified nursing home operators -- his donor base.

> The media landscape is beyond broken in this country

Your lack of cynicism is admirable. An alternative hypothesis is that it is working as designed; the treatment of the NY governor is a feature not a bug.

Have you noticed the Dem-media-academia bloc seem to lionise some of the shiftiest people when they should really know better

- Avenatti

- Cuomo

- Lincoln Project

Not too confident about Fauci and Schiff.

I remember reading quite a bit about Cuomo's mistakes last summer in liberal media, but apparently it didn't change the dominant narrative. Here's one article:

Democrats gave a hero’s welcome to New York Governor Andrew Cuomo despite his mistake-filled early response to the coronavirus pandemic. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/08/cuomo-n...

Cuomo for all his faults took ownership of the crisis situation.

That’s what leaders are supposed to do, and that is what the public craves. Unfortunately, POTUS just wasn’t capable of filling that function for a variety of reasons.

I think most of those mistakes were understood as the state government was caught unaware and so little was known. We’ve seen similar tragedy in different states and countries — managing a pandemic is difficult.

I can't find it now, but I specifically remember reading an article early in the pandemic making the argument that the political leaders should step back and let public health officials take the spotlight, and pointing to Cuomo as someone who's doing a bad job of this.

'Hitler for all his faults took ownership of the crisis situation.

That's what leaders are supposed to do, and that is what the public craves. Unfortunately, Hindenburg just wasn't capable of filling that function for a variety of reasons.'

Means do not justify ends.

What did all these people have in common? I can't imagine.

The more you dig into it the worse it becomes. There is clearly a “great filter” going on with mainstream media - they decide what is worth reporting on, everything else might as well not have happened. With examples like this one are we surprised people turn to FB for their news and latch onto conspiracy theories?

> The media landscape is beyond broken in this country.

It has been for a while. Most of the major "news" media organizations are anything but news. That people actually believe what they hear, and then act upon this ... often ... misinformation ... is horrifying. That they have ardent supporters who insist that X really is news while Y is not ... well ... no.

If you want news in the US about the US, listen to BBC America. It is the least biased, narrative embracing, propaganda pushing, site around. There may be others that are workable as news sites. But none from the US.

It's probably true that media companies tend to report more objectively on the affairs of other countries, because the country they're based in will exert more political influence over them.

The BBC is incredibly biased in terms of British affairs, or so I've heard, but it stands to reason that they'd be more willing to be objective about what's going on in America.

We used to pay trained, trusted experts to conduct interviews and discover primary sources; their organization would have independent fact checkers to improve veracity; and the product of their findings was delivered daily to your home.

Corporate media hates that system.

I kind of like Reuters, too.

What's horrifying is that staff in these media advocate for more censorship in the name of battling misinformation. I thought journalist should viciously defend the right of speech, but oh well.

I am certain that end of the human race will be preceded by these words: "Trust me, this time will be different"

We are simply unable to learn from even the recent past. Every generation has to personally try every bad idea to figure out why its a bad idea.

Before the summer actually, not August.

A large swath of the media was busy at the time trying to put Cuomo on a pedestal as a kind of counter-Trump.

>the first reports on this already appeared in august 2020, but somehow all mainstream outlets weren't too interested.

Because it would have diminished the relentless message emanating from almost everywhere that Trump, and Trump alone, was singlehandedly responsible for every single COVID19 death in the US.

This was fist reported as early as May 2020 in the dailycaller - so-called extreme right wing media and "fact-checked" by the MSM as lies and ring-wing propaganda.

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1356655957976244225 https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/15/new-york-coronavirus-repo...

Also, sexual harassment accusations...

Was Trump right about CNN…?

Don't forget Cuomo making the rounds in April telling people to ignore Trump's scare mongering, that it was perfectly safe to take the subways and catch a show on broadway.

For HN leftists (I know, I know - that's all of you), you can extrapolate from the Cuomo media suppression to the suppression of the Hunter Biden story, the election fraud, the two fake impeachments, and Joe Biden's senility.

I've looked at cnn.com a few times, and at least their homepage appears to be dictated solely by the left. The hagiography on Kamala Harris a couple days ago looked literally like something the CCP would publish: "Kamala is the last person in the room", etc. I thought VPs were supposed to just golf? Why is Kamala shadowing Biden if he's not senile? (She's in just about every public picture of Biden, standing just behind him.)

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/25/politics/kamala-harris-cnntv/...

For those who don't know what I'm talking about, Twitter has said they regret suppressing the Hunter Biden story before the election, and WaPo issued a retraction on their quote of Trump asking an election official to redo results (that quote was one of the Pelosi's "reasons" for the second impeachment.)

https://nypost.com/2021/03/25/dorsey-says-blocking-posts-hun...

https://nypost.com/2021/03/15/washington-post-runs-correctio...

The more you compare the MSM with actual events, the less they match.

You forgot to mention the droves of women who have come forward to accuse him of sexual harassment.

Yet he may well stay in office. It's a one-party state, if his allies in the party hold the line it'll all blow over.

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