Cuomo Aides Spent Months Hiding Nursing Home Death Toll

Weirdly enough I didn't know he was given an Emmy but I have seen wall to wall coverage of the accusations against him and calls for him to resign from dozens of democrat leaders including the Senate Majority Leader.

SNL (pretty much centrist-liberal) has been trashing him on both fronts -- calling out the nursing home deaths on weekend update and even a very long cold open raking him over the coals for the abuse stuff.

Seth Meyers (easily the farthest left network host) has been dragging him hard on both fronts on Late Night as well.

The only opinions I've seen expressed by people in my social media sphere for months are that he's an absolute dirtbag - the man is canceled. I think the real point you are approaching is that most of the time "canceling" someone doesn't really do much.

Look harder then. They're not difficult to find.

When you treat "media" as a monolithic, moving with unified purpose, you're going to make mistakes just like this one.

"media" is diverse enough that you kind people you can disagree with when you look. So it's no doubt true that there is media out there that is defending Cuomo. But that doesn't mean there is some vast conspiracy, or even wide spread collusion, as you seem to be implying.

The coverage bias on both sides is enormous, and there's enough news to cover that it's easy to overlook inconvenient truths (or relegate them to page B-47).

1: http://www.readacrosstheaisle.com

Tangle is a daily newsletter that provides links to coverage from both sides. VERY fair reporting. Ground News highlights stories that have been covered by only one side of the aisle.

https://www.readtangle.com/ https://ground.news/

That’s what leaders are supposed to do, and that is what the public craves. Unfortunately, POTUS just wasn’t capable of filling that function for a variety of reasons.

I think most of those mistakes were understood as the state government was caught unaware and so little was known. We’ve seen similar tragedy in different states and countries — managing a pandemic is difficult.

We are simply unable to learn from even the recent past. Every generation has to personally try every bad idea to figure out why its a bad idea.

Your questions above propose the idea of bias in the information delivery and reception, which inherently maps to political partisanship. What other sort of bias could your questions possibly evoke?

Cuomo was exposed and has been condemned largely by officials within his own party, and also broadly by the media, whether left, right, or center.

And the article that I linked to quoted a study that used excess death numbers and compared those to the official counts. That is by far the best method to estimate an undercount.

It was only later that we discovered that he actively fudged the numbers by not counting nursing home patients that died in hospitals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o

One has to be crazy to believe anything from the right wing media after things like that which are just a tip of the iceberg of lies they regularly spread. They did it to themselves.

Anyway, it's problematic because around half of the total recorded deaths for New York state, for the entire pandemic up to now, likely resulted from infections that happened during the no/minimal restrictions period in March of 2020. Presumably the original poster wanted a "strong restrictions" vs "light restrictions" comparison w.r.t. to deaths. And that's fine; it's just that New York is going to give you a poor starting point for that comparison unless you dive deeper.

I don't think I've ever read an HN post that made me cry like that.

These two factors are key, in my opinion. Infection rates and deaths fell dramatically in the NE after a better understanding of how to treat COVID was gained, after mitigations for spread were implemented, and after the spring. Those rates also stayed relatively low for the remainder of the pandemic compared to other states, as well.

the whole colored tier system was a farcical distraction from real mitigations like quarantining nursing homes and their staff who'd volunteer for 24-hour hero pay and 2-week on-off cycles (long enough to recuperate and re-quarantine), and asking people to distance indoors around familiars, which is where most transmission happens, rather than around strangers or out on the street where your silly mask-wearing does less than nothing. 90% of angelenos, by my anecdotal count, still wear masks outdoors, as if it were a talisman against impending death.

despite unceasing media howling, our infection rates held relatively steady for a year, until recently, when vaccinations finally started to have a real effect on those rates. none of that (double-)mask-wearing, excessive hand-sanitizing, overly restrictive retail-closing, and incessant surface-disinfecting propounded by the state/county/city did anything to mitigate spread, only modest distancing indoors and restricted interfamilial contact had much mitigative effect (and the latter could have been handled much less invasively and damagingly).

i'm decidedly unamused by the stupidity of it all and ready for new leadership of any stripe other than democrat or republican.

That was when we were still counting the first hundred and contact tracing.

The people running the homes dissented against it. He still did it.

It doesn't take a genius to know you will infect elderly people by sending a highly contagious disease into their facility.

The cover up is beyond despicable, but the original action is indefensible.

Also, after the death toll rolled in they deleted the executive order from the New York State website despite it still being in effect.

There was a cover up from the moment the order was issued, I'm not sure how this action was taken in good faith.

Regardless of your political persuasion what Cuomo did is wrong by covering it up. We can't have 2 standards for politicians based on if it is someone on your team.

I can forgive bad decisions in a time of crisis. But what they did was way beyond that.

Writing a book about his supposed epic handling of the virus.

Still in office.