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I am an Indian. I can attest that a lot indians are extremely corrupt and will abuse the system as as possible for their own benefit. I am so ashamed of being an indian. Indians are the people who don’t put the shopping cart back in its place and just leave it in the parking lot and the rest of the people can’t park their cars. They unload the cart into car and don’t bother that traffic is backing up.

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You can't post slurs like that to HN, even if you're a member of the group and intending it as self-criticism. Internet threads don't provide nearly enough information for people to distinguish such nuances. In a medium like this one, it's just flamebait.

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There are self-centered people from all countries.

I used to feel good/bad depending on what people from my country/region/group etc. do. But it's so silly. Why do I care what another person does - whom I don't even know? It's the same with long lost ancestors.

So now a days I notice such thoughts quickly and remember that it's a silly heuristic that my brain uses and I should ignore it.

I've always been kind of an outcast, so it's always been my policy to worry about myself and let others take care of themselves.

As a result, I think my moral compass is quite a bit stricter than most people. I definitely have people telling me I'm being too hard on myself.

But I don't turn that compass on others. They have to make their own choices, and live with the consequences, both internal and external.

Thank you for the thoughtful answer. I am not unaware of my first impulse towards anger. I have hurt a lot of people with my angry outbursts. Some of them are in their after lives and I hope my sorry reaches them.

Don't dwell on guilt, just focus on doing better. It sounds like you already are, because your comment here makes it seem like you are thinking and living the humble life now.

If it’s of any comfort, there are people who specialize in this in the United States as well. Retailers that still offers “receiptless returns” now requires a photo ID so that they can ensure you aren’t playing fraud games with them, and some will openly deny returns to certain customers if shadowy reputation services that no one knows exist deem it too high risk.

Please don't be ashamed of your ethnicity/race/geography. You are an individual and ought to be treated by yourself and others as such. All groups have their cultural and historical baggage. I say this as someone who had quite a bad experience on work trips to India haha.

> I am so ashamed of being an indian. Indians are the people who don’t put the shopping cart back in its place and just leave it in the parking lot and the rest of the people can’t park their cars.

I am not sure how misuse of Apple services is related to people leaving carts in the parking lots. Yes, these are civic sense issues but a) how common do you find designated places for carts in the parking? Hell, how many times do you even find a parking b) It takes time for people to adopt something new. 95% of Indian are still shopping in local Kirana shops and placing the stuff directly in cotton or re-cycled plastic bags.

Generally, civic sense is proportionate to resource per capita. While you are in the USA, pls observe this behaviour on black friday sales.

It is privilege to goto online forums and say such misrepresenting generalized statement and do a virtue signal of being sorry for it. what you are apologizing for ? not all Indians do. it is not a cultural thing. ppl with disadvantaged economic background sometimes do that and there are policies to counter that. the amount of berating on self culture ks appalling

Is this a troll?

No, I am not. I grew up in Mumbai and emigrated to USA. Those were my genuine feelings.

As a non-Indian, my impression (after hearing something like that multiple times about Indians) is that people in India may be raised to be more apt to over-use a system (and even abuse it), but it's not unique to them. Every country has people who do it far too much, and everyone does it to some extent.

So don't feel so bad.

Also, these kinds of things are usually a trade off. Your culture has a lot of beautiful things that are unique to it, too. No culture is perfect, and pretty much everyone is just trying to get by.

IMO, be the best you that you can be, enjoy the beauty of life, and don't feel responsible for others.

I was also drunk when I wrote my original message. I have been drinking since 8 am since my wife left for work. I also need to get my drinking problem in order.

Good luck! You know what they say, admitting you have a problem is the first step.

There's whole category of user like this https://old.reddit.com/r/canconfirmiamindian/

That's why I asked but I think you're rage is legit as this is the sad relatiy of society right now.

This subreddit is gold. Thanks for sharing.

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