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The M1 is the entry level processor, and is still beating everything in single thread performance. What merits the media exposure?

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M1 being called a new era of CPU architecture, AMD really deserves a great applause here for being there as well.

I’d assume that’s because of the novelty of it being a competitive desktop ARM processor. The processor listed isn’t much faster than the previous gen Ryzen, it’s unremarkable from an apple to apple comparison.

Non-Apple TSMC 7nm and 40% faster at the same wattage (assuming GP is correct) compared to M1 seem like valid reasons for media exposure to me

It’s marginally faster than its predecessor.

By that token, the M1 wasn't a big deal.

Why do we call it an entry level processor? Is it marketing words?

Because it's available in the cheap models, including a model (the Mac Mini) that costs about as much as the AMD 5850U cpu itself.

Also, I see the M1 as having 1733 (single) and 7652 (multi) GeekBench score, whereas the AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 5850U has 1414 (single) and 8140 (multi), so the M1 is quite faster in single core than it (22%) and close in multi-core (the AMD being 6% faster).

So what gives, and how does that fits with the numbers given by the grandparent?

Because so far Apple has only released entry level products with the M1. It’s pretty obvious that they will release higher end chips for higher end products later this year.

Why would people be so fanatical to opt into a locked ecosystem again to care so much about the M1?

The day it hits an over the counter SoC that can be used with open source software, i'll start to get excited...

Until then, i'll just use AMD Ryzen and Intel or straight up open source capable arm SoC

The M1 and 5850U are in the same laptop price range. But I agree on the single-thread, it's indeed 12% faster.

I recently bought a lenovo ideapad (ultrabook form factor) for under $900USD with a 5700u 16GB ram 512 nvme

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Apple-M1-8-Core-3200-MH...

I'd say AMD is really blowing the M1 laptops out of the water at half the price and more performance.

I recently bought a Lenovo Legion 5 (4800H, 512GB, 16GB, 1660ti) for around $1200 after checking the 4700u ideapad. This was before the Ryzen 5000 series launch, so I suppose the Legion 5 is around $900 mark these days.

Many OEMs don't really give a good thermal headroom for the AMD processors, and only Lenovo seems to have done it right.

Lenovo's stock management sucks though. There were no stock for many days, and had to go unorthodox methods to get my hands on a unit.

Keep in mind only four of those cores on the M1 mac are performance cores. A M1 Mac with 8 performance cores would blow that thing out of the water based on how close they already are.

It would consume more power too.

It's remarkable that AMD can even compete despite not having access to 5nm like the M1 does.

I'm very excited for the near future of 5nm AMD laptops. Even more for 3nm.

It seems incredibly likely that such a product would be reserved for the highest end models for example the MacBook Pro and Mac Pro starting at 2400 and 6k respectively and would be properly compared to high end laptops that like the example don't exist yet.

It's nice to see the CPU space heating up in recent years.

I bought my m1 MacBook Air for $800, and while it doesn’t have 512gb nvme or 16gb ram it compares a lot better than ‘half the price’

How's the heat? My Inspiron 5505 w/ a 4700U gets egg frying hot under load.

(edit: Not precision, is inspiron.)

What exact model did you get if you don't mind me asking?

huh, apparently price went up $150 since I bought it https://www.newegg.com/lenovo-flex-5-15alc05-82hv0000us-grap...

edit: wow price went way up actually - I paid $790 https://i.imgur.com/aBamY5l.png

> The M1 and 5850U are in the same laptop price range.

Where? The only 5850U laptop I can find is the HP EliteBook 845 G8, and that starts at over $2300 for a 5850U model.

How come I see Geenbench 5 scopes pining the M1 as 20% faster?

M1 has little-big architecture with 4 fast and 4 slow cores, while Ryzen has 8 equivalent cores.

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