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Comment by maipen | Hacker News Reader

Telegram's just better and doesn't need a centralized shitcoin. Instead of using the battle hardened technology that Monero is, Signal chose to create a *99% garanteed coin full of bugs to come in the future. - Privacy and Software ain't easy and monero is the best example of it and the many upgrades it has had and bug fixes during all these years. Have fun losing your customers money!

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People's insistence at bringing up Telegram as an alternative to Signal seems to be as incoherent as bringing up Go on a Rust thread. Their similarities end after the level-0 description as "recently-ish released messaging app / programming language". Telegram's requiring users to opt-in to encrypted messaging on a per-thread basis does not enable claiming feature parity with Signal's always-encrypted threads.

> Your entire chat history will require no disk space on your device, and will be securely stored in the Telegram cloud for as long as you need it.

This is the one thing putting me off, I want my chats on my device not on machine I don't own or have access to.

Telegram tried to create their own cryptocurrency _twice_ : Gram which was cancelled due to the SEC cracking down on unregistered ICOs and TOM which is no longer affiliated with Telegram at all.

Telegram is not "just better" from a security perspective, which is the one that should matter.

Don’t use telegram, use whatsapp or signal

Or why not Matrix which is federated and has E2EE?

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