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Mr Graham writes "You would think, after having been on the side of labor in its fight with capital for almost two centuries, that the far left would be happy that labor has finally prevailed. "

Unfortunately Mr. Graham has an outdated view about the "far left". I recommend anyone interested in what a modern "far left" looks like learn about Richard Wolff and the Democracy at Work movement. A startup in a garage where everyone is an owner building great stuff is pretty much it.

He did a Google Talk here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynbgMKclWWc

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Wouldn’t that just be “the left” with “the far left” reserved for MAP (minor attracted persons gag), ANTIFA, weather underground, etc type organizations that have their hopes invested in the left but see no support from the actual party.

That's why I put "far left" in quotes. What is "just left" to many might seem to be the "far left" to Mr. Graham. But I'm just speculating what he meant by "far left" and could be wrong. He doesn't elaborate on the term.

he does elaborate, he said "after having been on the side of labor in its fight with capital for almost two centuries" whereby he describes the aspect of the left he is talking about. He is a pro capital-ist, and he's referring to the part of the left that is anti capitalist. There is a lot of the left that is not anti capitalist

I'm confused by this conversation. What's important about the semantics around the words vs my criticism around that his view is outdated? Nobody seems to comment about the substance around my original post.

Paul Graham seems to think labor is now winning since it is able to get capital to do startups much easier than in the past. But nobody on the left is criticizing this. The left criticizes the organization of these companies as they grow bigger. Anti-capitalism is the criticism that only a small group of people end up owning everything and making all the important decisions. The criticism is the anti-democratic nature of how most corporations function.

either i responded to the wrong comment, or you edited your comment. What I was responding to was a statement that (paraphrasal) "he does not elaborate on what he means when he says 'quote' " and I was pointing out that he does elaborate in the quote itself.

What’s that actual party that’s left?

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