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I'm personally waiting for the next PinePhone iteration with a better chipset, since the CPU is pretty slow for even budget phone standards.

Combined with software improvements that will hopefully give a relatively smooth experience.

Then again, the PinePhone is so cheap that it's not a big risk either way.

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Don’t hold your breath on the next PinePhone iteration. On the forums, people expect a new hardware generation to come in only 3–5 years from now. Pine64 seems to assume that the hardware is fine for now, it is only the software that hasn’t been developed and optimized enough.

You mention Anbox in another post here. Don’t expect that to allow you to run banking apps on Librem/PinePhone, as banking apps increasingly require the Android phone to pass Safety Net, and Anbox doesn’t.

> increasingly

Source? Even anecdata?

Less apps are required, in lieu of web apps on their websites.

If you want anecdotes, look at the LineageOS forums where people complain frequently that passing Safety Net on unGoogled phones is no longer possible even with the old workarounds, so now their bank apps won't work.

> Less apps are required, in lieu of web apps on their websites.

Some banks require you to install their phone app for 2FA – they have phased out separate code cards or code calculators now that everyone is assumed to carry a mainstream smartphone. So, even if you want to log into their online-banking website, you need an Android or Apple phone in order to authenticate.

Also, I know these problems exist.

But you said increasingly. I disagree, I'm hearing less bitching about this than ever from people running Graphene or Lineage.

Switching banks is pretty trivial.

I'd never use a service that forced themselves into my device like that.

Not everywhere has a diversity of banks to choose from like e.g the US. Some countries are reduced to an oligopoly or even duopoly where the banks don't differ in terms of their expectation that you will use their iPhone or Android app.

Y'all probably struggle to get wild blueberries from Maine, too.

Still going to recommend them as a best practice! =D

You can't compare performance on the pinephone to Android phones because the OSes and app ecosystems are completely different: You just run Linux desktop environments and apps that are designed to run without hardware acceleration.

I run FVWM and Firefox on mine and it works very well.

FVWM sounds interesting. Would you like to share details of your setup? If so, I would like to interview you for my blog https://linmob.net!

And why wouldn't you order Librem 5 now?

The Librem 5 is a bit more than I'd want to spend on an alternate device.

Online banking 2FA and some other apps sadly tie me to Android.

Although that might change if Anbox works ( https://puri.sm/posts/anbox-on-the-librem-5/ ).

I have 3 android 9 apps that are important to me. Running those would allow me to switch forever. I went to the anbox site briefly but didn’t quite see a list of images.

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