Your 2nd source links to Hasan saying "America deserved 9/11".
Since not everyone will click on your sources, I just want to point out what you consider "political speech" for others to see.
Since not everyone will click on your sources, I just want to point out what you consider "political speech" for others to see.
Two social networks with very different ways of handling their communities.
edit: My comment was fairly benign. What gives?
Maybe it did.
No more of this, please.
Goes to show that no one really wants "free speech".
Regardless of what the rules are, in practice this is exactly how upvoting/downvoting works on sites like Reddit and this one. You can't override basic human nature with loose guidelines.
Do you have an example? It also seems probable that HN intended voting to be used that way as well. The intended use case isn't always what users use something for.
Like voting on comments, for example. That's free speech too.
That said, HN is definitely not anything even remotely resembling a free speech platform, in concept or execution. It's the recruitment platform for Y Combinator, and all decisions are made here to optimize for that.
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
It's totally ok if you don't believe me, but if you want to take the time to read the past explanations at https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so..., I'd be super curious to hear what you think is wrong with them. For me the interesting thing about HN is that keeping the community happy—by gratifying curiosity—is the thing that produces value for YC.
I was meaning to say almost exactly, "the way to maximize HN's value to YC is to maximize how interesting it is to the community"... so that when YC (and its companies) need interesting people to solve interesting problems, they're already here. It seems like you agree with that, though you do call it "cynical" and "hard-nosed business" reasoning.
"Marketing" is sometimes treated like a 4 letter word but that's not how I meant it.
"Interesting" however, seems like a very important word (it's mentioned 24 times in those 15 comments)!
Especially not on HN, where the SV/SJW group think prevail.
Argument I often get is "you are free to voice your opinions and we are free to massively downvote you", well, same happened with 9/11, the US elites have been cunts to the whole world (including to "The People" and still are), they are totally free to be, by then 9/11 came as a big slap in Wall Street America face, maybe they deserved it...
As for "SJW group think", that sort of generalization is entirely determined by your own priors. The opposite side has different priors and sees HN in exactly the opposite way. Both views are not only imaginary, they're actually the same phenomenon with just one bit flipped.
Lots of examples here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26148870. Countless other explanations at https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....
As long as the country and constitution remain in the "defend to the death your right to say it", we'll be fine.
Diversity of ideas and opinions should be celebrated.