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If admin login is using weak credentials, it is by definition not a secure backend. Password/credential management and mandatory MFA are ALWAYS part of security due diligence for suppliers.

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Except if it is awscli creds, then of course there is no MFA.

This has been a concern for me for a while, but it's possible to use aws cli with mfa by throwing an IdP in front of it.

The work flow we used was AWS Vault -> Okta -> short lived AWS creds.

What do you mean? Awscli supports key tokens from your 2fa device if your access keys are configured to require it

There are way to limit the scope of those. One set of credentials per environment for example. You can also limit the use of the these credentials by policy.

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/IAM/latest/UserGuide/reference_p...

Exactly, no workflow for terraform or CLI if you have U2F (Yubikey) 2FA.

That's not true. You can use AWS SSO with the CLI/SDKs (therefore including stuff like Terraform) with webauthn.

It briefly pops you out to a browser to authenticate and caches a short lived token locally

If you use federated auth, then you can do whatever you want; 10 UDF keys and a video of a special dance if you so desire

There's AssumeRoleWithSAML so you can use any IdP

There's tools like aws-okta that can advantage of that to supply short lived credentials which require 2FA

You could also write a service that requires whatever authentication you want and returns the results of STS AssumeRole

I really want to like U2F, but it’s use cases seem so limited.

AWS STS solves this problem.

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