It's one thing to overly indulge a billionaire friend, it's another to endanger his physical/mental well being to the point of death.
It's one thing to overly indulge a billionaire friend, it's another to endanger his physical/mental well being to the point of death.
For a wealthy high functioning billionaire, but one who is arguably affected by dopamine dysregulation that compromises his faculties, I'd imagine it's a trickier path to walk...
Plus, if I had a close friend who was doing mushrooms and nitrous oxide, I wouldn't necessarily think that was particularly dangerous. I, perhaps ignorantly, would have considered those to be relatively safe things to experiment with.
It's so easy to say what should have been done after the fact, but it can be incredibly difficult to know the right thing in the moment.
What if the reason someone isn't motivated to get better is precisely because of the acute drug dependency? In other words, what if getting someone through the initial withdrawal of, say, heroin stabilized them enough to feel motivated to improve their lives?
After all, we use this reasoning to prescribe medication for e.g. anxiety and depression. The reasoning is that drugs are sometimes very good at providing people with just enough stability to allow for long-term solutions like therapy.
If this is indeed the case, might there not be some situations in which forcibly taking someone to rehab would be helpful?
The "you cannot forcibly make someone go to rehab" seems like policy more than actual truth. It may even be a good policy, for all I know. But assuming I'm right, maybe we shouldn't confuse the two.
It's one thing to help a friend avoid an accidental death, but this speaks to a months long pattern of behavior that was clearly a deliberate personal decision.
What's the point of wealth if not obtaining the basic freedom to live (and die) how we choose?
Drug/Alcohol addiction is hardly a personal decision... This is a dangerous point of view to take.
People like to personify addiction, as if there is some outside force controlling the person, but this is to discount and discard every single addict who decided to clean themselves up. I know lots of addicts who chose to continue, and I know lots of addicts who chose to stop.
Don't personify the addiction: the brain of an addict is still that person's brain, and their decisions are still their own, even if they are de-legitimized in your own opinion due to their addiction. There is literally no one else who could possibly be responsible for the decisions of that human's brain and actions than that human being.
What goes in to our own bodies when we are not coerced by another person is our own decision, full stop.
I know one person who says of herself that some days she just can't go into the city. Because she knows on those days she'd get hooked again if she were to pass a place where she used to shoot. And she talks about "it", that urge, in the third person.
I fully "discount" her judgment in some areas and she would agree. Like I can't reason you into holding your breath for longer than a minute, I can't reason her into ignoring the urge. I would not treat as "legitimate" a decision she takes following that urge. Whether she stays clean or not depends a lot on her surroundings. Does that put responsibility on her friends? You bet.
I wonder, what do you make of Toxoplasmosis? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis#Rodents
If one can opt out (by eg not going into the city), one can also opt in.
Oh but you see, it's her friends that give her the freedom not to go to the city: If they weren't there, she wouldn't have that choice.
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>I know lots of addicts who chose to continue, and I know lots of addicts who chose to stop.
I highly doubt you know any addicts full stop.
>Don't personify the addiction: the brain of an addict is still that person's brain, and their decisions are still their own
I just can't even, are you a scientologist or something? I have literally never encountered arguments like yours. Truly outlandish.
"Addiction exerts a long and powerful influence on the brain that manifests in three distinct ways: craving for the object of addiction, loss of control over its use, and continuing involvement with it despite adverse consequences. While overcoming addiction is possible, the process is often long, slow, and complicated."
"...we recognize addiction as a chronic disease that changes both brain structure and function."
https://www.health.harvard.edu/%E2%80%A6/how-addiction-hijac...
That may be true in your experience, but not mine: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25327689