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sabotage is the best you got? how about just saying i dont mix business and pleasure. im here to do my job. if you dont like it you can find someone else.

who wants to work for some big corp pushing woke agenda and treating you like children anyway? sounds like kindergarten "okay kids now its recess" or "now is your naptime". im good. id sooner starve in the streets. i think too many people are cowards and wont stand up to this kinda thing. so they deserve what they get.

I would gather that there should be a middle ground. But the larger the company, the less you will be likely to find it.

As in, our company has started doing some of these Zoom Fun meetings too. I guess as a manager I should go? Well I don't. They're after work. Bull! When we were at the office, we'd have things like monthly birthday boy/girl cake in the afternoons. During work hours, like it should be.

Also good luck getting me to go back to the office 5 days a week. Not gonna happen. This commute and quality of life is just too good to give up again. Of course there are many people in the company that miss the office and can't wait to get back. Some are just extroverts, so I get it. At least from their point of view. But then again, I really like to see them suffer. They've suffered enough you say? It's only been a year! They've made me suffer all my working life!

Others I think just like the procrastinating while showing you're "working" by having "body in office" time high.

Wishing suffering on others is only going to hurt you. People seem to have no problem creating suffering for themselves, no need to wish it on them. As far as suffering your entire working life, sounds like you need to make some changes in your life. no one is making you suffer except you. regarding working from home: i cant see much reason to make developers go to the office especially after the [total]itarian lock downs, so i salute you on your newfound ethic.

I'm not sure how that's supposed to hurt me to be honest. It's not like I'm trying to make voodoo dolls of them and might poke myself in the finger by accident. But fair enough on being overly dramatic on the wording. It's not like I'm actively trying to make them suffer.

I do feel for the other introverts that are more socially inclined and suffering as well. There's many an introvert that is finding out that they are introverts but that it doesn't mean that all personal human contact was bad. Even myself, I miss some of it. In fact, since I'm less drained from being around people all day in the office and during the commute, I feel more need to get out myself and I socialize more on my own time (though it takes different forms thanks to the pandemic than before). Before there was nothing left and I just wanted to be by myself.

However, I will maintain that I shed zero tears for the extroverted (especially HR types) people that force stuff on you without any consideration whatsoever. The worst are the ones that try to make you feel bad for being who you are and trying to make you more like them as if that is the only way to be.

> Just mute everyone, turn video off and do your thing. That is what I do for most of my 'social meetings' anyway. I go, cook my dinner, walk my dog, and when everyone is saying goodbye, I just throw a 'wave' emoji or something

I do this even when in office. Body present, mind absent. Perhaps this culture of 'team building' and 'social activities' etc ought to be rethought. People will make friends as per their comfort and disposition. In a workplace, its best to let everyone be and do their thing and focus on work.

Try too much to make and gel people together and it backfires.

#2 is a retarded idea, don't do that.