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From what I remember Koch and Tononi measure consciousness in Phi ( and phi is complexity) I remember a conversation at Towards a Science of Consciousness conference about this. If Phi is measured in complexity you could make a glass window complex and that is conscious.

Also during Tononi's talk a guy walked through the isle and said something along the lines of 'Phi is the answer, Phi is god, Tononi is our savior'

Thoughts on Phi?

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Can you really make glass window that much more complex? It's still the same molecular structure with maybe a more complicated shape, but how it interacts with the outside world is still pretty much the same

  "If Phi is measured in complexity you could make a glass window complex and that is conscious."

If true, that sounds like a reductio ad absurdum of the hypothesis.

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