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Please don't post generic comments and/or ideological flamebait to HN. It leads to generic threads and/or ideological flamewars, which we're trying to avoid because they're tedious and turn nasty.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

oh ok, professionals have standards

my bad !

I will elaborate and be "more thoughtful and substantive" as written in the guidelines, next time

I didn't know where to place the cursor, since the issue was inherently politic and not about technology, as the article states

But this article deserved political comments, nonetheless

Political comments are ok if they're thoughtful and substantive (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...). When they turn shallow and low-information, they become flamebait. We're trying to avoid that, and we're especially trying to avoid the repetitive battles they usually escalate into.

Not sure if it is helpful to reduce every issue to a one-dimensional scale of capitalism/socialism. Particularly this specific issue is about privacy culture, corruptability of big tech, government and use of technologies, surveillance, etc... There are so many more societal and just plain epistemological axis than just socialism/capitalism.

And the results are pretty similar to the 2018 vote on cancelling their public broadcaster, which also highlighted questions of corruptibility of big companies, but was not around privacy, technology, or surveillance.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/vote-march-4--2018_att...

That can also be read on the scale of "privatize anything because the state should just make 'laws'"/"have a public sector to offer basic services to citizens", that is a debate in Europe

In what way is this a vote for socialism?

They don't trust private companies, and they'd rather have their government to manage their IDs. As explained in the article.

uhm, what?

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