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It's the first part of the Data Transfer Project - an initiative between major online service providers to provide an easy way to transfer data between their services.

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That's interesting, and it's the first I've heard of the project. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like Apple has yet released the adaptors to the open source project [1]. As much as I'm not interested in having Apple copy my photos to Google, I am very interested in scripting my own offline backups without having to make space for Photos.app to store all my photos on my laptop's SSD. Hopefully the adaptors are added to the project soon.

[1] https://github.com/google/data-transfer-project/tree/master/...

I am pretty sure this project is purpose built to keep your data amongst the big tech oligopoly. You exercising your freedom is no good for anyone.

Or you could read DTP site instead of axe-grinding "DTP is an open source project centered around the idea that less-resourced companies can use and build on the common models and codebase developed by the community of contributors. All companies are welcome to participate."

https://datatransferproject.dev/faq

or you could look at the source and see such big tech oligopolists as 'mastodon' and 'rememberthemilk' https://github.com/google/data-transfer-project/tree/master/...

Checked the home page it says "This approach encourages companies to continue to support data portability, knowing that their proprietary technologies are not threatened by data portability requirements. For a detailed taxonomy of such data, see ISO/IEC 19944:2017."

Went to look for ISO standart, and founs out thet it's status is "Withdrawn"

https://www.iso.org/standard/66674.html

It's been revised and updated, yes, that means the document is withdrawn but the standard lives on in 19944-1:2020.

"This first edition of ISO/IEC 19944-1, along with ISO/IEC 19944-21 cancels and replaces ISO/IEC 19944:2017, which has been technically revised. The main changes compared to the previous edition are as follows:

— provides additional material which principally deals with organizational data and the need to treat some organizational data in particular ways in order to ensure confidentiality, integrity and so on,

— the new concept of data facets is introduced and data facets are used to extend the expressiveness of data use statements, including adding the concept of which individuals or organizations have control over data,

— the new data use categories are introduced, including some that address the newer uses of data associated with artificial intelligence systems.

A list of all parts in the ISO/IEC 19944 series can be found on the ISO website."

in the meantime, https://github.com/icloud-photos-downloader/icloud_photos_do... has been pretty reliable for me.

If you are in the EU, they are by law required to give you access to your data in a way so that you can achieve this. If this is not available then you can make a complaint and maybe sue them, but that costs money.

Stop spreading this incorrect info. You already have access to this data on both Google Photos and iCloud Photos. The only notable thing is that Apple is offering to perform the transfer for you.

What do you mean? Have you read this?

https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protectio...

The fact that you can download a .zip file with your photos is not enough.

Most notably this section about consumer having the right to

> have their personal data transmitted from one controller to another controller.

It's not just the .zip file. You can transfer all your photos, in original quality, to Google and that includes all metadata. The only notable thing that has changed is that Apple will do it for you, not because of GPDR, but because they're part of the Data Transfer Project.

Once your library gets large, local storage is just too hard and expensive on a laptop. Photos.app seems to hate using external or network drives.

Yes, but self-made NAS is always an option, and in this case I'd almost say an ideal for when the balance of trust leans away from unnamed organizations holding your information.

I've been using it on an external drive for ages. What kinds of issues have you run into?

I would really like to know if the M1 chip helps this in any regard.

For those curious - https://datatransferproject.dev

AKA the Anti Anti-Trust Project

Ah, easing of travel restrictions often accompanies a diplomatic thaw.

Sounds like a trust to keep minor providers out of the market.

This is quite elaborately dishonest as data portability is one of the requirements of GDPR that came to life in 2018. It's not like suddenly those giants decided to be good companies and allowed data transfer between services. It looks like they use it as a PR piece and at the same time trying to ensure that users won't flock to competition that has not signed to their thing.

I think you’re looking at this the wrong way. The fact that companies can sell their regulatory obligations as a positive PR move is the carrot to get them to do it well and be proud of it. Stick only is how you get half-assed left to rot technically compliant implementations.

They are offering it regions where it’s not required by law as well.

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