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Everything is politicized by everyone to further their narratives. It’s not a meaningful statement.

Science is not just euphemism. Science is the reason we have gotten as far as we have. Science is the reason why infant mortality is almost in much of the world, and food is plentiful.

Some people may use it inappropriately, and try to corrupt it, but it doesn’t change the fact that making conclusions based on data and repeating experiments to verify and adjusting the model as the data indicates is the best way we have to model our world.

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Which people are using it inappropriately and corrupting it?

Why are they doing it? Why are they using silly phrases like, trust the science? Which is basically the same thing religious people do, when they say have faith.

Also, science, the classical definition, has no meaning on its own. It’s simply way to describe reality. It’s usually up to engineers and people to put into practice.

The science may describe gravity, although they still can’t answer why the gravitational constant is a constant.

But, engineers and people can test effects of gravity everyday, and act accordingly.

>Which people are using it inappropriately and corrupting it?

Journalists who misrepresent the results of a study to get clicks. Companies that purposely design erroneous experiments to get the results they want (a la the tobacco example elsewhere in this thread). Individual scientists who corrupt their own studies or falsify data to advance their own careers.

>Also, science, the classical definition, has no meaning on its own. It’s simply way to describe reality. It’s usually up to engineers and people to put into practice.

This makes no sense. Science is the process of refining the model of the world by testing hypotheses by performing experiments and then revising the model as new data is collected. This is in contrast to something like religion, where the model is not to be altered regardless of the data.

Science is about describing reality. You may be describing scientism, or some other psuedo scientific charade, which conflates actual science with hand waving mumbo jumbo, like people try to conflate astro physics with astrology.

Gold has always existed, as far as we know. People have known about gold and it’s properties, long before classic science described gold. There’s no model or testing hypothesis for gold needed. Gold exists because people use them regularly.

Science just described gold and other elements, because they exist in reality.

Engineers and people didnt need science to describe gold to use gold. Science is convenient way to describe reality for what it is.

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