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This is such a dangerous game to play.

CNN knowingly misleads the public every single day. It's effectively public knowledge if anyone cares to investigate themselves.

Going after FOX because the ruling party disagrees with them, but leaving CNN alone is the definition of authoritarian, regardless of your views. You can't single out voices.

Further, who owns CNN? (Turner Broadcasting System)

Who owns Turner Broadcasting System? (WarnerMedia)

Who owns WarnerMedia? (AT&T)

Interesting... so AT&T is being lobbied not to carry its competition, while leaving its own broadcasting alone.

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It's also funny looking at sources that they're referencing Comcast (vox.com/NBCUniversal) to tell Comcast (Xfinity TV) to censor certain contents. There is no government.

Trump continually attacked the media, Trump literally said the media was the enemy of the people. He would ignore questions from other agencies, even those without bias.

Until people in their own parties start standing up for principled government it will never change.

Unsurprisingly, downvoted for stating facts once again - people are afraid to call a spade a spade.

Reading these threads has been very depressing lately, Democrats ask OANN and other _extremely_ conservative networks for information, and that's somehow an attack on the First Amendment, where as 4 years of Trump - and the rest of the Republican party - attacking anything he disagreed with as Fake News was totally cool.

Either Hacker news is being heavily astroturfed (there are many throwaway accounts participating here for example) or really that's what this community is now.

I just keep a little personal list of usernames of people who are promoting Fascism and avoid anything they are associated with.

Respectfully, I don't really see anyone saying that false accusations of fake news were cool. I'm concerned that you might be stuck in a mindset of partisan battle, where anyone who expresses concerns about this letter is declaring themselves to be on the other team from the people who wrote it.

Expressing concerns is great, and I support those comments. Reflecting on what you said, it’s true that pointing out an issue here does not imply political affiliation to either side, but it’s sorta funny how much more volume there is about this?

In terms of supporting racism, Specifically what I'm referring to are attempts to paint 1/6 as overblown or somehow was an acceptable event. Framing is really important - people here are claiming the only "real" death was "an unarmed protestor", ignoring that the person was shot attempting to break down the door to where the members of the House were actively evacuating from; and that somehow the suicides after the event or the deaths from the stress during the event don't count as real deaths.

When did CNN viewers storm the capitol in attempt to overthrow the elected government, leading to the deaths of 7 people?

There's actually a lot of clips of CNN & other reporters helping and pushing protesters into the Capital Building...

https://twitter.com/LaurenWitzkeDE/status/134990457311734169...

Also, only two persons died of wounds confirmed at the Capital (both protestors). The only person who was shot, was recorded by the "reporter" in the video above was egging on the police & protestors at the time.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/16/sullivan-vi...

Further, regarding the "7 deaths" two additional people died from a stroke and heart attack going to the Capital.

Yes, there were then three additional fatalities in the _days_ following the event. None of those deaths were linked back to the Capital building in a meaningful way (including the officer). While facts and the evidence can change, the current facts do not support the claims being made.

By CNN, you mean an independent (QAnon-pushing) documentary filmmaker, who was egging on an alt-right activist? This one has been debunked.

> Yes, there were then three additional fatalities in the _days_ following the event. None of those deaths were linked back to the Capital building in a meaningful way (including the officer).

Oh, you're going to have to try harder than that. Just because there was no indication that, specifically, "blunt force trauma was the immediate cause of death of [Officer Sicknick]" doesn't mean anything close to "None of those deaths were linked back to the Capital building in a meaningful way".

CPR being performed on him. A hemorrhagic stroke within hours, a ventilator (multiple pepper sprayings), and death within 24 hours. All factors that you say "eh, coincidence" to.

> None of those deaths were linked back to the Capital building in a meaningful way (including the officer).

That is simply false.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/police-of...

Lauren Witzke is a Q Anon supporter. Do you think Q Anon supporters should be given a voice here on HN?

Also, why does it matter how many people died during the attempt to overthrow our government by far right extremists? How many deaths are acceptable? 1? 7?

> Lauren Witzke is a Q Anon supporter. Do you think Q Anon supporters should be given a voice here on HN?

Sure, I believe everyone deserves a voice? Kind of weird to say that.

Further, it's the content of the video that matters. There was nothing Q related in the tweet.

> Also, why does it matter how many people died during the attempt to overthrow our government by far right extremists? How many deaths are acceptable? 1? 7?

(1) The previous post has a video of far left extremist perpetrating the storming of the Capital.

(2) I'm not arguing any fatalities are acceptable. I'm simply pointing out the figures are inaccurate; which is important because we need to have a basis of facts to have discussions. Facts, which are currently being exaggerated for political ends.

Jade Sacker doesn't work for CNN. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-woman-capitol-n...

Feels like you are just getting played and then propagating your problems further here.

https://www.jadesacker.com/about

Her client list includes CNN, NBC, etc.

Yes, she's an independent photographer who is often under contract with CNN, NBC, etc. Not clear if she was at the time, tbh.

That wasn't exactly my only point, the way the industry works -- CNN, NBC, etc buy content from people who go into dangerous situations. So these people are in-effect the "journalists". In her case, I don't know if she was credentialed or not, but given her lack of arrest (as far as we can tell), she likely was.

Complaining about the press being fast and loose with the facts while being fast and loose with the facts yourself is your choice.

Please don't post disinformation here. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9906367046

I agree, you should stop posting fact checkers and instead look at the government report linked in the post I linked.

The man recording the video was repeatedly on CNN/NBC/etc sharing his story... also Jade was an independent photo journalist who's clients include: CNN, NBC, etc.

https://www.jadesacker.com/about

This "fact checker" appears to be a bias journalist, I recommend checking the facts yourself. You don't need someone telling you what is real vs not, they dont' provide links in the AP article.

While I think it's fair to say they aren't "CNN journalists", they are employed by CNN as effectively contract workers.

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