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It makes perfect sense.

Music industry is a economics of superstars. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1803469 Very few stars get huge profits and after that it's long slim tail.

Talent or high work ethic is not enough for success, "getting discovered" aka someone likes you and invests the initial money and effort is another factor.

If personal effort is not enough and the artist has nothing else, selling your ass for an opportunity to earn millions is pretty damn reasonable transaction. I mean, if Jeff Besos would come to you and say: I invest into your startup $100M if I can fuck you into the ass tree times, very high percentage of HN crowd would immediately say yes.

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Please stop posting flamewar comments to HN. I realize the topic is provocative but that's no excuse.

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Now we’re just haggling over the price.

I was worried I'd get into a bidding war with someone who says they'll do it four times.

I was haggling on if it had to be Jeff Bezos.

I'm appalled, what kind of a man do you think I am?

I recognized this quote.

A transaction where the terms are fully disclosed with enforceable clauses and which has a clean starting and ending completion state is very different from what is being described in the article or what you are fantastically proposing.

A sexual assault tied to an entertainment career paths has indefinite terms, consists of unagreed upon jeopardy in terms of what is being exchanged, and for how long. It's nothing like an "opportunity".

> ... very high percentage of HN crowd would immediately say yes

The most powerful world in the dictionary is "no". As an entirely self-made / self-taught person I know the power of that word.

That you consider it a "pretty darn reasonable transaction" tells about your ethics and morality, not about the ethics and morality of a "very high percentage of HN crowd".

Regarding fame/money, here's Ruyard Kipling's take on it:

"Do not pay too much attention to fame, power, or money. Some day you will meet a person who cares for none of these, and then you will know how poor you are."

I'm raising my kid the way my rebellious parents rose me, telling her "no" is the most powerful word and she should use and abuse it and teaching her there's more to life than fame and money... But feel free to raise yours telling them selling their bodies to obtain fame/money is a "pretty damn reasonable transaction".

This isn't about the people who exchange sex for opportunity, it's about the people who exchange opportunity for sex.

It makes my wonder, just how prevalent is that in the tech industry? I'm pretty sure it falls somewhere between 0 and music industry, non-inclusively.

Probably a lot less of a problem since so many tech dudes are dudes.

Sadly, that means that the few women in the tech industry experience even more concentrated abuse.

Furthermore, there are even fewer people up the tech management food chain than in other industries who appreciate the circumstances of sexual abuse victims.

Sort of. The lack of women in the field is a problem. However programmers are in demand which means that women have some awareness that they can scream and get away with it. A female in the arts who screamed can be unofficially blacklisted and not get anywhere, where as a female in programming can scream and find a different job.

Also a lot of tech companies (but by no means all!) are aware of the issue. You can be reasonably sure a large tech company has as good anti-sexual harassment program and will generally take actions to prevent it. A female is about as safe in tech as any other job: not perfectly safe, as safe as possible.

I mostly meant in a probabilistic sense. It's much more likely that a male VC will be having a meeting with a male startup CEO than a female one (on either end!).

Your argument doesn't make sense at all. You don't invest in an idea or people if you don't believe you can profit.

You do if you call it "patronage" rather than "investment".

Sure, but what’s the catch?

> if Jeff Besos would come to you and say: I invest into your startup $100M if I can fuck you into the ass tree times, very high percentage of HN crowd would immediately say yes.

What's the name for this kind of arguments?

Also, why specifically Bezos? Why not the billionaire next door?

Also, why only the HN crowd? Wouldn't a lot of people too?

Do you have a beef with the HN crowd or Bezos?

I perceive your parent comment to be straightforward and not sinister in the least. Why not Bezos (the billionaire who most easily comes to mind), why not HN (the website we're on)? Seriously, what's with the weird angry insinuating questions.

> I perceive your parent comment to be straightforward and not sinister in the least.

I'll be straightforward too: it's shitposting with childish faux-provocation that doesn't bring any food for thought, littered with assumptions about everyone and presented as universal. Fool language doesn't help either, it's not straightforward it's provocation without substance . r/im14andthisisdeep is the other way.

how dare someone choose an example that would be relevant to the audience!

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