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You know, I can see real utility in a simple site that lets you upload data garnered from hacking escapades online to be easily searchable and presentable to the general public. It'd have the pastebin feature of a general press statement/greetz file as well. On non-US/EU/whatever harbors to protect from bring being easily taken down. Easy to upload massive amounts of files and can take the load from DoS attacks. Easy way to pipe massive amounts of data via shell. Is spartan so things like SQLi aren't a problem, with competent security in the backend. Basically a CableGates search site for all dox from large scale hacking events like all the high profile recent ones in this year. To make things interesting, it'd use fancy things like schemaless document stores, bitcoin payment processing and fiat-->bitcoin conversion, and other shiny things that are popular nowadays.

Pays the bills via ads and subscription-based early access to members. Also has pretty features like alerts via SMS on new uploads, easy viewing of images with jquery, auto-submitter to big news sites, etc. Could function as the role of media relative/press kit for news orgs as well.

Makes the process of rolling your own torrent of the data (hostable by thepiratebay amongst other choices) easy and deadsimple. Basically the ultimate CMS for hacking.

Whaddya think?

I think it's hilarious how a story about leaked Iranian emails somehow led to bitcoins.

My precious, precious, bitcoins... my precious.

This is what Wikileaks was supposed to be/ originally was. Since they've changed gears a site for en masse data collection of value would be interesting, sadly the "wikileaks rivals" have no interest in this... so it's probably a good plan.

They changed gears because it turned out that passive reporting of giant fact dumps did not garner attention nor have significant impact on the world. As soon as they began taking on the role of curation or reporting on top of their cache of data, that's when things really took off (according to Assange).

Well, they certainly went from 'obscure curiosity' to 'house-hold name and infamy.'

>>>You know, I can see real utility in a simple site that lets you upload data garnered from hacking escapades online to be easily searchable and presentable to the general public.

Did you ever read Stephenson's Snow Crash? You just described what the CIA becomes in that novel: crowd-sourced intel uploaded to a central site.

That had one incentive lacking in the proposal though: cash to the uploader in exchange for access. Also, apparently, some rudimentary gatekeeping on what was uploaded (though it seems some people were able to upload tons of useless information for a while before getting the boot).

I thought that idea came from Stross' Accelerando - probably both actually.

I'm actually reading Accelerando at the moment but somehow totally forgot about the crowd sourcing aspect of the new look CIA.

Investigating further Accelerando was published after Snow Crash by a fair margin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerando_%28novel%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_crash

Aren't distributed downloads somewhat more hard to block though?

Downloads via Bittorrent would continue with ThePirateBay. This would just be an alternative way to view and search through the data without having to personally download it.

Hell, this could be quite useful for all those who use services or are employees of Gawker, Fox, PBS, the Iranian and US governments, and whoever else to see if they were part of the pwnd list and what information they have leaked out there.

In the process, a learning experience could be developed: change your passwords, and keep them unique across sites. This could be step #1 for a positive outcome.

It could automatically publish the data to BitTorrent as well.

Liability would eventually be an issue.

Yeah, which is the point of the non-US/Europe hosting and domain registering, etc. Anonymous payment for hosting. What was the name of that really good French host that'd host anything and was aggressive about protecting its customers' privacy again? Basically any and all steps that could be taken to insure anonymity of those running the site. Likewise, no logs are kept of those using the site to search. Maybe minimal ones for security purposes in case of a breach for finding the cause and source. Ideally, little to no personal information of those running the site should be on there anyways. And no Tor please. Tor is a dead argument and very slow.

...did you pay attention to anything that went on with EG8? You have absolutely no guarantee that anything will be safe in France over the next few years, given Sarkozy's stance.

Would it be filtered to only hack data submissions?

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