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Okay, anecdotes aside... What level of autonomy does this provide? Is it just basically lane assist?

I've seen a few videos of it. It really is just a half step up from active lane keeping. It will proactively keep you centered and manage your speed with no interaction, whereas normal lane keeping only kicks in if you are about to drift out of the lane.

A "half step up" doesn't really do it justice. Most current LKA + Adaptive Cruise Control on cars will only keep you in the lane for a few seconds before requiring human engagement. The Comma Openpilot has already driven intervention free for hours.

Yeah I realize I am a bit reserved in my description, and it is incredible that a phone can be used to do what its doing. I really like this product and I'm glad somebody is making a self upgradeable module you can put in a car and get these features, as opposed to them being trapped in a model year's trim level and irreversibly obsolete like other modern car electronics.

My main goal was to provide a reference to its capabilities without invoking "self driving".

Is there a video of that I can watch?

There's a lot of drives on youtube available. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22y-LaiDkrM I love it for freeway driving. I don't really use it for city driving though. If you would find cruise control annoying on some road open pilot probably wouldn't help you.

Honda LKA keeps you centered and lets you take your hands off the wheel.

Only if you want to look like a drunk driver. I wish it worked like that, but all it does is jerk back to the center of the lane about half the time and then complain that "steering is required".

Yes I really like the Honda adaptive cruise control, especially in bumper to bumper traffic. Does a fantastic job, saves a lot of driver fatigue and other than perhaps not being as smooth and fuel efficient as I could be, works exactly how you'd hope.

The LKA on the other hand only works only about half the time even in perfect conditions, when it works it doesn't even do that good a job and you have to provide steering input every 10 seconds anyways.

This is my experience on a 2020 Honda CRV so I assume this is among the best you can expect from Honda.

I honestly did not know this product existed and am very tempted, because an upgraded version of the adaptive cruise control would be very tempting. I've found that monitoring that the car is doing the right thing is a lot less taxing than actually driving, but feels equally safe.

Exactly. I love the adaptive cruise (although I wish it would go below 25mph) and it makes long highway drives so much less tiring. If I also didn't have to worry about minor steering adjustments, it would be even better.

My adaptive cruise control does work from 0-25mph and it is great, especially for bumper to bumper. You only have to watch out for cars aggressive merging in front of you (which the distance sensor doesn't always pick up) but otherwise the car does everything. It doesn't do pure stop and go, but the car rarely every fully stops and once it does you only have to press one button to get it going again.

My 2019 Insight (Civic hybrid) keeps me perfectly centered in the lane when I’m going higher than 45 mph

There is a "tap to switch lane" which can do your lane changes but it's not automated (since there's only forward facing camera)

Yes, it's just lane assist that does a good job in a variety of situations that stock systems typically don't do well in.

Level 2. But it's rapidly evolving opensource software.

There's only so much you can do with a single, front facing camera. For example, automatic lane changes are impossible with this.

Additionally to the fact that I kinda want to avoid rapidly evolving open source software that runs on Android 8 steering my 140km/h death machine.

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