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Not everyone wants to pay taxes either, but sometimes sacrifices will need to be made so that we don't ruin this planet. Sure having personal space and full autonomy in movement is nice, but it may have to be realized in different ways as we start to see the damage we are doing to this planet.

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A planet with only mass transit is not a planet I want to live on. Many will fight you to the bitter end on this.

> A planet with only mass transit is not a planet I want to live on

Pitiful strawman. I've never heard someone argue to have "only mass transit". More focus on common transports, cycling cities? Yes, please.

Of course, many like you will still fight it "to the bitter end", whatever that means.

I think the crux of the argument here is that we will not have a planet to live on anymore.

Most people lived and died within 20 miles of where they were born until extremely recently. In that context, this sort of idea is kind of amusing given we have many different parameters (such as the viability of life on earth) to consider in solving social problems.

Let’s follow the science.

Cruise ships pollute more than cars. But you won’t see any green politician discuss that. Why?

https://www.thedrive.com/news/28469/carnival-cruise-ship-fle...

But you won’t see any green politician discuss that

Do you live in a city that gets a lot of cruise ship traffic? Because in my experience a lot of green politicians are very keen on banning cruise ships.

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Because cruise ships do their polluting primarily in international waters and are registered under flags of convenience. They have separate fuel tanks for in western countries' jurisdictions to fulfill the regulations that these green politicians have already passed.

This sort of non-compliance compliance infuriates me. Any ships with dual tanks should be banned from western waters.

Then they'll invent one with triple tanks ;)

That article says nothing about CO2, which is by far the biggest man-made contributor to global warming (and probably what the person above you was referring to)

> Cruise ships pollute more than cars

Sulfur oxides (SOx), yes. Carbon dioxide (CO2), no.

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