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There is semi-hidden animosity between the black and some Asian communities.

Chinese immigrants are often the ones first moving into and then buying out people in black neighborhoods.

Asian kids do disproportionately well in urban schools. Lowell High School is moving from a scoring based system to a lottery. Asian parents see this as unfair while black parents see the previous system as unfair.

Chinese are traditionally not seen as fighting back. Some criminals see elderly as easy marks due to the tendency to carry cash and due to their frailty.

The trade war with China has spread to demonization of Asians.

BLM riots and the lack of persecution and then the defund the police emboldened criminal activity including physical attacks.

This cycle of animosity and violence last occurred roughly 30 years ago.

I’m getting a gun.

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Semi-hidden? Tensions between black & korean-americans was a huge part of the 1992 LA Riots.

All ethnicities go to war with each other in LA, it's such a hell hole. Certain Mexican gangs in the 90s were targeting blacks with extreme violence, not to say that it doesn't go both ways. Still to this day there is a lot of tension between Sureno gangs and Black gangs.

Westside is still good ... right?

Also a sub-theme in Spike Lee's Do The Right Thing from the late 1980s.

> The trade war with China has spread to demonization of Asians.

Has it really though? I agree with pretty much everything else you said (though I’m unsure if getting a gun is warranted).

I don’t think a trade war with China will spur too much in the way of anti-Asian sentiment. Americans were generally able to differentiate between Russians and their government during the Cold War.

I’m not saying there won’t be notable stories that pop here or there, but I don’t think this country is actually as Nativist as the press makes it out to be.

We’ll see I guess.

Stay safe!

> Americans were generally able to differentiate between Russians and their government during the Cold War.

And just 20 years before that the Japanese internment camps happened.

Sharp contrast between concentration camps for Japanese and Japanese Americans with the treatment of Germans and Nazi sympathizers

Some German Americans were actually interned[1]. About 1/10th the amount of Japanese that were interned, but also not nothing.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans

That was because the Allies expected the Germans to obey "rules of war" in the European tradition, and knew that the Japanese wouldn't. An American GI would be much happier as a POW of Germany than of Japan.

What do you even mean if you call the US nativist? Native American Supremacist?

"Nativist" is a common historical term in the United States to mean someone who is anti-immigration and (usually) anti-immigrant, and tends to be strongly associated with white supremacy.

Pretty reasonable take overall.

People shouldn’t forget about the African-American and Korean animosity during the LA riots. This stuff goes way back.

I’m getting a gun.

If violent people are anything like wild animals, pepper spray is safer and more effective. You actually have a good chance of hitting your attacker with a stream pepper spray, unlike with a tiny bullet. Your attacker (in the case of, say, a moose) is more likely to run away when hit with pepper than with a bullet. And you are less likely to have collateral damage.

Have you ever been involved with pepper spray? It’s generally terrible for self defense. An attacker isn’t instantly incapacitated — they are still deadly until the full effects of the spray kick in. In the Army, I was trained to keep operating even amongst tear gas. It is horrible, but a violent assailant, especially multiple violent assailants aren’t going to immediately drop to the ground or run away. Being trained and proficient with a firearm is a far better strategy than hoping the attacker happens to be downwind and hoping they aren’t on meth or other drugs that make them seemingly impervious to pepper spray.

Here is one example of why pepper spray is not ideal: https://mynbc15.com/news/local/mobile-woman-shot-after-peppe...

Had the lady shot the suspect, it’s unlikely that she would have been hurt.

Just throwing out there violent people are not like wild amnimals, and in 94% of cases simply drawing a firearm is enough to cause an attacker to flee.

If this is true, then we should disarm every cop.

Pepper spray is nothing; former Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien puts pepper on his plate, he had us know.

https://www.cbc.ca/archives/when-protest-met-pepper-spray-at...

> I’m getting a gun.

good luck. ammo sold out across country.

If you are willing to pay there are overpriced sales and limited purchase options at your local gun store. There are four million new gun owners and it will take a while for the industry to catch up.

Make minicrossbows fashionable again.

Hackernews starting to read like Blind App

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