But it’s irrelevant to this post , the goal is for Germany to get sovereign 5G Telecom Infrastructure, today it’s either China with Huawei or American antenna ( NSA + CIA ) with Ericsson.
The US will not help Canada in trade conflicts. In fact, most trade conflicts that Canada has are with the US. Equally, the US only helps Canada militarily as far as it furthers US interests.
Here is a good example. The only significant military challenge to Canadian interests right now are Russian claims in the Arctic. The US, instead of supporting Canadian claims, first made its own claims, and then argued that the territory should be under international jurisdiction.
States do not have friends. Only interests.
One is a totalitarian regime devoid of basic human morality such as ripping out organs out of people for profit while they are alive , responsible for genocide of Uighurs and suppression of information and many many other stuff that is devoid of any dignity for humanity.
The other is a democratic hyperpower that Canada is also part of under the Five Eyes agreement.
If I had to choose between the CCP, Russia or America, it's America every fucking time.
edit: I took a look at your comment history and when you talk stuff like this I see where you are coming from:
A significant reason why Stalin was able to successfully rise to power and why the Bolsheviks were able to secure total power is because of foreign violence and interference.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26013882the other commentators replying to you are correct. Your ignorance is quite disgusting.
Now ask that to the rest of the world.Not only to Five Anglo Eyes
Whether by racism or political calculus, US authorities do not seem to respect lives of citizens of third world nations.
US has kidnapped random people around the world to keep them in jail idefinately with no court or trial. It has killed thousands of people in drone strikes, in violation of international law, airspace and territorial sovereignty.
Add to that some invasions, and maybe you will start to realise why people in Russia/India/Vietnam/etc. do not trust US any more than they do anyone else when it comes to upholding international law. As a Britton/German/Canadian you don't have to worry about these things.
Additionally, if you consider territorial ambitions, various land disputes of old world nations are usually historical. As in "we will reverse some kind of injustice and get back some lands that belonged to our ancestors". That doesn't justify them, but one benefit of this is that they are predictable - China is not going to wake up one day to invade Somalia, but with USA you never know.
and China, Russia, North Korea does?
Seems you are not even aware of your own bubble!
Consider normal countries like India, lets not bring tinpot dictatorships and bana republics into this, unless thats your benchmark.
sure
a lot less bullshit abroad wars
care to tell us what US troops are doing in Afghanistan?
"7 October 2001 – present (19 years, 3 months, 3 weeks and 6 days)"
no.
There is evidence of organ harvesting of prisoners on death row, that seems clear. Morally that’s different ballgame to vivisection.
This is the reason why Canada maintained ties with Cuba, a Communist State, and did some limited military training with the USSR in the 1980s.
The US is the greatest peace-time threat to Canadian independence.
Nations have no friends. Only interests. It's sad, but it is how it is.
There othering of a whole nation is only going to make the situation worse. They have different political and cultural values and yes some morally questionable actions... but so do all countries.
In terms of Canada/US relations... Canadians were imprisoned (and put to death?) in China because of the very questionable US indictment of Huaweis CFO... how was that good for Canada?
Indeed, it's a situation where Canada won nothing and lost a lot.
> The anti Huawei narrative is entirely political and not based on facts.
Are you saying that there are no security implications in having the CCP build and run your country's digital infrastructure?
Both Ericsson and Nokia barely make any profit, even amidst of what should be a 5G bonanza. They're famous for their perennial layoffs, constant cost-cutting, bland working conditions, outsourcing, infighting, insane level of bureaucracy and proliferation of management positions.
Huawei on the other hand, is well known for paying above-market wages (though long working hours), "poaching" skilled people from competitors, generous employee share scheme, valuing engineering above middle management, contributing to open source projects, and relative freedom their R&D personnel enjoys in tackling technical challenges. And their B2B offerings are the best value. And their consumer electronics is among the best value. And on top of that, they're highly profitable.
Even if you assert there's some secret money pump from CCP to Huawei, you cannot deny the fact that Huawei is a well-oiled machine that delivers. Pump billions into not only Nokia/Ericsson, but also IBM, SAP, HP, Oracle - the money would just get sucked into a black hole with very little to show for it. Huawei is portrayed as evil, because the alternative is to confront our weakness.
While this may be the case with some people with loose morals, don't put your words in my finger tips. I portray all major Chinese corps as the worst possible alternative in most cases because they are backed by a government with modern day concentration camps
I hang in the EU a lot lately. My friend takes corporate groups on tours of various places. She told me of one group from China last year who happened to see European reporting on protests in HK, while they were at a bar. The group's reaction was "what is this a joke? Are they being sarcastic? Is this a movie?" They had no idea what was happening in HK. A couple of them sent messages home to friends/family about the matter and within minutes all of their phones were disabled.
This actually happened. I want that government as far from me as possible.
There was wide National Support for the crackdown on HK protests, it wasn't controversial at all. The government didn't need to censor any of the media.
> I portray all major Chinese corps as the worst possible alternative in most cases because they are backed by a government with modern day concentration camps
So half of Europe and South America have modern day concentration camps, they just call them "Refugee Camps". In other Asia Pacific Countries (including Australia) they have "Immigration Detention Centres" (prisons for the persecuted). In the US they have Gitmo AND immigration detention.
In China they have Work Camps and Re-eduction camps.
I fail to see the moral high ground. Are you from a part of the world I missed?
OK, I give up being reasonable. Collect your 50 cents.
> I fail to see the moral high ground. Are you from a part of the world I missed?
I am not claiming any moral high ground. In fact, my experience tells me that anyone claiming the moral high ground for one country/race/group over another takes the risk of being a dangerous fool. This side of humanity will be our end if we do not grow out of it very soon.
Huawei is a legitimate threat from a country that doesn't have the same checks and balances as other countries e.g. free media, robust judiciary, democracy.
And it's not like network providers are specifically trying to secure their platform against Huawei. It's against anyone.
It doesn't matter if you're dealing with a dictatorship or a democracy when it comes to foreign policy. Both will kill you.