If you were a rabid QAnon nut, why should I hire you? Saying republican is this context is just driving the wedge in too far.
If you were a rabid QAnon nut, why should I hire you? Saying republican is this context is just driving the wedge in too far.
I had a Parler login since July. Mostly out of curiosity and just to read/lurk. There was a very vocal loony subset, but that is the Internet for you.
Kicking people out of work for visiting a hacking forum is about same. After all, for the general public, hacking sounds like crime and sometimes actually is. People who deliberately choose to associate themselve with hackers are not to be trusted, or?
No. This attitude has to stop. Having nazis and far-right extremists being vocal on your site is not "the internet for you".
It is a deliberate choice by whoever runs the site to be a welcoming home for the vilest voices.
I believe that erasing such people from a worldwide forum veers dangerously close to covering an alarm signal on your car's dashboard with black tape because it is annoying and life feels better without worrying about what might be happening under the hood.
I prefer living my life without illusions about the rest of humanity, doubly so in politics.
This kind of hate SPREADS. Letting it be normalises it, and lets it spread. The antidote to this kind of thing is for the rest of society to loudly and clearly reject it, and make it very obvious it is not acceptable.
Letting people keep spreading their hate does the exact opposite.
"We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured."
Exposing it does not deal with it. It just gives it more air to spread. You actually need the dealing with part.
What makes you think that?
It's literally in the quote.
Covering up hatred is not dealing with it, it's a facile attempt at ignoring it.
It is nowhere to be seen in today's world, though. You're here talking about letting the nazis spread their hatred as much as they want, but I am not seeing you having any plan for how to dealing with them, other than just letting them do whatever they want.
Once you let them out, what are you planning to do to deal with them?
Hatred is very difficult to confront effectively. It requires inner strength and a great capacity for love. So many people lack that and just default to mirroring that hatred back at the hater, or just try to cover it up and ignore it.
It's hard to see things when you don't want to see them.
>Once you let them out, what are you planning to do to deal with them?
If you want a "plan" then simply study the philosophy and history of Dr. King.
Here's a great place to start:
https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/king-papers/documents/lov...
You have no standing to deny me that.
Especially since you have pledged your allegiance to the plans of Big Tech overlords like Mark Zuckerberg who profit greatly from the engagement metrics of hate.
Yeah, no. I am actually amazed the platform lived as long as it did because there was no opposition to members voicing death threats against politicians/activists/what have you. No moderation to keep those in check.
Outside some Neonazi sites, I've never seen anything like it, some Islamist sites probably are similar.
Parler also had multiple communities depending on language. The Czech community of early 2021 was nowhere as wild as the American one at the same time. We are not close to any election now, though; this might have had a cooling effct.
Based on what I've seen and people I know who were active on Gab and Parler I would venture to say it's not nearly as high as people think. The amount of people with truly fringe beliefs is pretty small, even when concentrated.
And I'd personally much rather have this small group of people outletting their anger onto the internet instead of IRL.
Pushing them further and further into a corner with ever expanding censorship and expecting them to become good tolerant citizens has always seemed like a fools game to me.
Venting anger on the internet and it producing no real change isn’t an “outlet”, its just a pressure cooker.
> Pushing them further and further into a corner with ever expanding censorship and expecting them to become good tolerant citizens has always seemed like a fools game to me.
Containing the various white supremacist / conspiracy cults isn’t about reforming them, its about reducing their ability to recruit and radicalize. While reforming those already in the cults would be nice, its mostly a lost cause. They aren’t, for the most part, going to become “good, tolerant citizens”.
Also, receiving thousands of threats and being doxed "onto the internet" has very serious consequences IRL.
IRL they're limited physically to whoever they can reach; online they can make their hate travel the world ( point in case, there were QAnon related actions in Germany! If the Q people had been purely IRL that would have never happened)
Aside: Gab is horrible technically speaking; Firefox uses my full CPU :-/