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> Why are low sugar alternatives to basic snacks (e.g. Keto friendly) like 3-10x more expensive?

Don't eat snacks.

> Why don't we have cheap and healthy fast food...

Don't eat fast food.

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Thanks. This advice is literally useless for millions of working class people.

Fast food can be healthy. We're doing a disservice to our public health by not making it be healthy.

If you're affording to eat out at fast food restaurants, you're probably not as working class as you think you are.

You...do realize that around 30% of people in every economic level eat fast food right? It's how a third of the population gets their food.

Stop being a dick.

I agree fast food can be healthy. When you meal prep it ahead of time and throw it in the microwave straight from your lunchbox.

There's nothing wrong with snacking in itself. Arguably, it's better than three or so heavier meals. There's nothing wrong with fast food either, if we encompass, say, a healthy sandwich or salad from Subway, Chipotle, or Panera in it.

These attitudes purely stem from the way these are dominantly present in our society.

> There's nothing wrong with fast food either, if we encompass, say, a healthy sandwich or salad from Subway, Chipotle, or Panera in it.

I don't know what to say apart from this baffles me. These aren't healthy options. They're processed junk food.

What’s wrong with Chipotle?

A typical Chipotle order is 1,000 calories, an entire day's worth of salt, and most of a day's worth of saturated fat. Just for lunch. That's insane. Almost nobody needs that unless you're an athlete.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/02/17/upshot/what-d...

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/food-cocktails/news/a36622/chip...

I think it's also pretty gross, greasy, sloppy food in general - they've caused e coli breakouts in the past it's so bad.

The higher-end numbers from the NYT article come from chips and guac. If you're ordering fast food from these places you of course have to watch that you're not ordering calorie-heavy foods like you also have to in restaurants. But their menu also has lighter-calorie options.

What I'd also question is how much of these numbers are due to the portion sizes vs. nutrition per calorie.

Thanks, I didn’t realize this. I appreciate the sources

> There's nothing wrong with snacking in itself. Arguably, it's better than three or so heavier meals.

There have been studies purporting to show benefits from having either more or fewer meals per day and overall there isn't really strong evidence either way.

Regarding the point about cheap and healthy fast food, wouldn’t it be awesome to have the convenience of something like that? No need to be so dismissive.

Easier said than done for some. Many snacks are chemically engineered to subvert your rational mind.

It's yet another thin person thinking they've discovered the magic to life.

It's always this dismissiveness of real issues that has led to obesity becoming such a massive national and international crisis.

That's exactly the response that does not solve systemic problems. It is unconstructive, unhelpful, and most importantly ineffective.

Just don't go to fast food restaurants. Just don't. That's the advice. How much more clear do you want it to be?

"Just don't drink alcohol. Just don't. That's the advice. How much more clear do you want it to be?"

"Just don't use addictive drugs. Just don't. That's the advice. How much more clear do you want it to be?"

"Just don't smoke. Just don't. That's the advice. How much more clear do you want it to be?"

This is how you sound.

What do you think the advice should be?

Snacks and fast food are harmful. So don't do them. The same way we say cigarettes are harmful and tell people to avoid them.

I don't know how else to dress it up? What are you expecting? The advice is 'don't do it'. Seems hard to pretend it's anything else?

what,s wrong with that advice?

we live in an unsafe world...

you either make these hard choices, or you suffer the consequences...

These aren't solutions to systemic problems.

People like doing stuff that is unwise/unsafe/destructive, acting like they don't (ignoring the problem) and then throwing out dismissing quips isn't even an attempt at a solution.

Nudge theory[0] has worked in the past (within the limits of the problems). Dismissing those problems as trivial while waving them away as an individual choice hasn't been and cannot be because it doesn't even attempt to address the underlying issues.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudge_theory#Types_of_nudges

If there are systemic problems, there's nothing an individual can do about it today, apart from following my advice - abstain. That's the best advice there is today, for an individual.

If I was advising a government for how to change things in the next decade I might have some more ideas I could share!

i can,t solve systemic problems. no one can. each of us can only solve problems locally.

If more people thought like you we wouldn't have an obesity problem.

Thank you. Seriously.

Thank you.

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