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The real story here I think is how LACNIC handled this.

Who in their right mind will do infrastructural internet business in Latin America going forward if some self-righteous American man can cause them to revoke IP:s assigned to your company?

There is no indication that this Russian internet provider - who claim they are operating in Belize - had a say in the revocation of this IP space.

Looking at the website of DDoS-Guard, it looks to me like a fairly normal internet provider with fairly normal customers.

I hope they buy IP space in other regions going forward, that have due process without causing disruption for their business and their customers.

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> "Who in their right mind will do infrastructural internet business in Latin America going forward if some self-righteous American man can cause them to revoke IP:s assigned to your company?"

But DDoS-Guard wasn't doing business in Latin America. They made what amounts to a shell company in Belize so they can get a bunch of IP addresses from LACNIC.

To the extent LACNIC handled this situation poorly, their poor handling began when they gave DDoS-Guard IPs in the first place.

This is how things went:

1.) LACNIC erroneously gave IP space to DDoS-Guard, a Russian company

2.) Someone did LACNIC's research for them and said 'Hey, you know that company isn't really based in Belize.'

3.) LACNIC did their own investigation, concurred, and revoked the IP space.

The real story is how LACNIC apparently does little-to-no due dilligence before handing out IP space. And then it took an American man to do cursory research for LACNIC to actually figure out that LACNIC was being lied to by a duplicitous Russian company trying to get cheap IP space in violation of LACNIC policy.

Why should South American companies do business which overseas firms that lie and simply use them to launder their location instead of open up offices in the country which is what they want in exchange, probably to help with economic development?

LACNIC did their own investigation and found out they didn't have any physical presence in Belize.

> However, none of the company’s employees are listed as based in Belize, and DDoS-Guard makes no mention of the Latin American region in its map of global operations.

It seems pretty cut and dry; DDoS-Guard would need a physical presence there to operate, they didn't, so the IPs were revoked. The phone call was simply a tip to investigate.

Exactly. While I might disagree with his vendetta, if we're honest, all he is doing is exposing fraud.

Not quite.

> DDoS-Guard CEO Evgeniy Marchenko maintains the company has done nothing wrong, and that DDoS-Guard does indeed have a presence in Belize.

So they acted without any investigation because "uh oh, here comes the mob".

You're quoting a paraphrase of a statement from the CEO of the company about to get the majority of their IPV4 space revoked. Of course they're going to maintain that they're in the right.

Where did you find that LACNIC didn't investigate this?

Where's that quote from? The article points out they make no mention of any Belize presence, and LACNIC spent several months investigating the tip, which happened in November. That hardly seems reactionary.

sorry to be an ant-fucker, but reactionary basically means conservative

Different usage of reactionary.

there is no different usage. Look it up

The rest of the sentence that you improperly quoted:

> DDoS-Guard CEO Evgeniy Marchenko maintains the company has done nothing wrong, and that DDoS-Guard does indeed have a presence in Belize.

Which clearly does not support anything else in your comment, or rebut anything in the comment you're replying to.

Presumably any company actually following the rules and having a physical presence in SA would still be happy to do business in SA? If you don't have a physical presence there, you shouldn't trust LACNIC to keep your IP assignments, but that's a feature.

How did LACNIC handle this? There's almost no information in the article except that it took a few months. It seems you're making a judgement based on speculation that there was no due process or investigation just because the article didn't mention it.

But how would krebs even have visibility on internal LACNIC processes?

If you don’t want your IPs revoked, maybe you should follow the local laws and regulations that govern keeping those IPs? Just a thought.

Russia and all things Russian appear to have become something of a scare word. There's a palatable innuendo here. Cyber security alarmists and internet do-gooders wouldn't use the same tone to note that a firm is located in Connecticut or Michigan.

It’s interesting to see the kinds of mental gymnastics these threads attract from folks seeking to defend their favourite nazi site.

LACNIC really fucked up by enforcing their rules that require you to actually be doing business in Latin America, how horrible!

This is so tiring.

I'm a Swedish man. Last time I visited the US was several years ago. I'm not particularly sympathetic towards Donald Trump or Parler. I'm definitely not here to defend nazism.

Not sure if it's intended, but if you intend to get sympathy and support for your cause (whatever that is) by calling me a nazi or implying my interest in internet infrastructure has anything to do with supporting nazism, then you are not gonna get very much sympathy from me.

So way to go with the polarization.

So what motivated you to ignore all the facts when posting your comment? Your implication that LACNIC is pulling DDoS-Guards IPs just because LACNIC doesn’t like the content they host couldn’t be further from the truth.

Describing Guilmette as a “self-righteous american man” seems oddly hostile for someone with no skin in the game.

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