"AYO ITS 2021. LETS KILL TRUMP" posted 8:04 PM · Jan 11, 2021·Twitter for Android just minutes ago
Another one. https://twitter.com/rowdon_ella/status/1348691401765224451
Just search "kill Trump" you only need to scroll a bit before you see threats to murder the president.
The reason for the Amazon ban is not the simple fact that Parler had people making threats. Per Amazon's email to Parler, it's that they had seen an on-going escalation of credible (much more so than the two tweets you linked) incitements to violence, Parler had a history of dragging its feet about responding to specific complaints about infringing content, Parler failed to furnish a tenable plan for how to implement an effective content moderation policy, and public communication by executives indicated that they had no good-faith intent to do so.
Furthermore, while I agree that Twitter doesn't do as great a job at stuff like this as one would like, either, this is just a really ill-chosen place for Parler's supporters to try and make their stand. The cast iron pot does not help its case by calling the steel kettle black.
Is it any different from Twitter though?
Parler’s Complaint is replete with insinuations that AWS had equal grounds to suspend Twitter’s account and thus discriminated against Parler. . . But AWS does not host Twitter’s feed, so of course it could not have suspended access to Twitter’s content.
Just as an aside, did they really tried to argue in court that AWS should suspend Twitter too despite not having anything to do with them? Jesus Christ, the incompetence in some of these people.
And even suggesting otherwise furthers the whole, "I reject reality in order to substitute my own narrative that better supports the position I'm trying to take," thing.
And, in this particular context, it's also a non sequitur. Go read the court filings. The story of what actually happened is being told there. It's a public record.
People will repeatedly attempt to complain this is unfair by attempting to find 'double standards' - here, the idea is if anyone tweets 'kill trump' and we can find the tweet an hour later, clearly Twitter has a bias towards Duh Dems
Thinking people will find these concerns obviated by the platforms consistently kicking off groups when things turn violent. It's just that the only examples of this until now were international and off most people's radar.
Maybe Twitter should be changed in some dramatic way if they can’t keep these calls for violence off the platform.
That being said, I can't think of any good solution if you'd like to keep that kind of stuff of your platform. I think it's basically impossible. The only solution that could deal with that amount of posts would be AI. But the problem with AI is that:
1. It's imperfect and generates false positives. There were stories about people being locked out of their Google accounts for no reason, without any possibility to appeal, because their support is also ran by AI.
2. It can get too perfect and thus extremely dangerous in wrong hands. (I think it's already in the wrong hands, but you get the point)
What's also not fine in my opinion is pulling down other services for their inability to deal with such content, when Twitter and Facebook themselves can't keep this stuff out.
Parler was cited for not wanting to moderate at scale.
Nonetheless, you have a point, and despite both of us reporting it, it’s still up, and shouldn’t be. In any case, that doesn’t change my point about parler, however, AWS or whoever would be well within their rights to cite this as a mark against Twitter too.
The Secret Service investigates these types of things. What relevance is this to bomb threats at the data center of a company?
I get whataboutitism is retort de jure for anything that touches on politics these days. But at least try harder.
Report button is behind three dots on that tweet.
There are alot more thought and there seem to be no moderation:
@xxx someone just fuckin kill trump already 6:11 PM · Jan 7, 2021
I removed the username to not expose her.
The problem is that you can close down any site with user generated content and point to your ToS while looking through the fingers concerning sites you like, like Twitter. Imagine having some full time employee generaring illegal content to get your competitors closed down where Twitter are immune. It is way too easy.
It also isn't a credible threat of violence: It has no specific plans, locations, or times, it does not have the support of thousands of people and high-ranking politicians to gather and enact those plans, etc. If this manifested in a large movement that resulted in serious damage and harm (e.g. like the attacks on the Capitol) then this comparison would be a lot better supported.