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Wikileaks leaked John Podesta's emails, including such criminal activity as his recipe for risotto.

And that was widely criticized as improper behavior.

Parler is not good, but stealing and publishing this information is also not traditionally ethical.

At this point, we've become so polarized that good and bad as abstract principles are irrelevant. What's good is what's bad for the "other side".

If the data was public, is it stealing?

(Not 100% sure if private data was released.)

CFAA doesn't care about that. There's problems with that law, but I really wouldn't want to push on it here.

Both widely criticized and widely lauded. Similar to what's happening here.

The point is that finding a vuln and investigating it to the extent required to prove it works is security researcher behavior. Actually exploiting it and dumping all of a site's user data is malicious. If he had leaked stuff relevant to the capitol riots or something, maybe understandable, though using the vuln to do so would still have been wrong.

Just as a friendly heads up, @donk_enby used she/her pronouns.

Wow. Downvoted to negative for politely correcting pronoun usage.

Not sure what I should've expected given the average user of HN.

FWIW my guess is there probably wouldn't be any downvotes if you just wrote "is a girl/woman".

Personally I don't care about the difference but just mentioning "pronouns" seems to be enough to trigger the downvote reflex - "pronouns" has been abused to create so much drama the last few years that I can kind of see why people react even if I don't do.

It's generally a good idea for leakers to be selective about their releases (Snowden did a better job than Manning in that area IMO). I guess Wikileaks is between a rock and a hard place, because if they started editorializing then that would lead to political bias.

They sided against the US government (and with Russia) years ago.

Has anyone leaked something about Russia that was then denied by Wikileaks? It could be that the US has a more active community of investigative journalists.

Apparently, yes: https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-l...

Except the over 70,000 documents and leaks about the Russian government on Wikileaks right now. This argument is absolute nonsense given that fact.

Well, since it was years ago, it's possible that they have reversed course since then. They disappointed me a lot, and I didn't keep up with them after that...

Political bias? Like when Wikileaks supported researching the Pizzagate conspiracy during the 2016 US election and posted links to /r/The_Donald "investigation" threads?

Here's the recipe for risotto:

https://thetab.com/us/bucknell/2016/10/18/john-podestas-crea...

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