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> if you don't like twitter censorship, build a new platform". It will be built. What then?

Even more polarization in society; both groups talking only to themselves, zero dialogue between the groups and no chance to hear an opposing opinion (you had that one with twitter). i hope this won't be the prelude to a more serious rift occuring in the real world.

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Twitter isn't censoring the vast majority of people. One group will be the vast majority of people who don't get kicked off Twitter. The other group will be a relatively tiny collection of extremists.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1347898774891491332 Glenn Greenwald says they are leaving in droves (or are being kicked out, not sure on that).

Seems like they are combing profile key words and punting users the last 24 hours. Harmless phrases, acronyms from words Kennedy said. Nothing hateful or inciting but does label them as identifying with a certain spirit or community.

I don't understand something: wouldn't that be extremely bad for twitter? i mean they need subscribers for pushing their advertising, or so i was told.

Not if they are a cost center for the propaganda machine. In Soviet Union no one cared how much Pravda earned from the subscriptions, since it was not their purpose.

I think they are fighting for survival, they might be taking this court action that was pushed by some ten republican states very seriously - this case has a strong legal basis. I suspect that its all business.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-16/google-su...

There were three people with Trump flags in my neighborhood on Monday. Those people all took their flags down.

Another explanation is that centrists are simply unfollowing right wing sites. I generally have tried to keep informed across the political spectrum, but I’ve definitely been less inclined to look at right leaning stuff since the Capitol Riot.

Interesting. Is anyone with a shred of credibility confirming that?

It’s because they banned a boatload of accounts that were dedicated to Qanon. A few high profile ones and a ton of others.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna12...

Actually Glenn Greenwald is the most credible journalist in my opinion. Who speaks to power no matter what.

I have a word with right wing friends. For years and years you supported removal Palestinian activists from Twitter or any other platform. I think you understand what it feels.

Actually MEMRI has been quoting some of these Palestinian activists, and has been censored by youtube in return: https://www.memri.org/reports/youtube-censors-memri-removes-...

For those who are keep downvoting me.

It just shows you are fucking imbecile and/or ignorant. Keep censoring people, I am eager to see how that is going to work for you.

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Twitter isn't going after extremists at all. Terrorists continue to post on Twitter right now. Totalitarian regimes carrying out genocide continue to tweet happily away on Twitter.

This is about going after anyone they think they should ban in order to keep the Democrats happy.

This is not about Trump for the technology companies. It's about bending the knee enough towards the Democrats to ensure that they retain as much of their freedom as possible. They are sacrificing others' freedoms in order to hopefully secure they own - although I think this is a Faustian bargain.

This. Malaysian ex-PM tweets that Muslims "have 'right' to kill French". Despite the outrage he's still free to tweet. Twitter cares about its image and its advertisers.

Twitter is an American company. Americans don't care about what happens anywhere else. Don't complicate it.

You do know that the Republicans repeatedly dragged tech CEOs in front of their kangaroo courts to air their entirely fabricated grievances, right? Why would technology companies be worried about Democrats after surviving four years of that?

Aren't the antitrust cases just getting going?

Hopefully.

It’s already happened. Since reddit banned r/theDonald, followers migrated over to their own site, thedonald.win. They are now much bigger in traffic, and called for storming of the capital building on Jan 6th.

Because only Trump supporters really visit that site, no one called it out despite the Jan 6th events being organised by millions right in the open.

If reddit didn’t ban TD, this wouldn’t have happened. It wouldn’t have become this radicalised.

This isn't reddit's fault

If politicians fail to pass gun reform and there’s a miss shooting, you could argue that both (1) the mass shooter and (2) politicians are at fault.

Please explain why you think reddit has no fault in this, when their moderation decisions has directly led to the largest radical right-wing community on the internet.

Reddit could have contained TD. It chose to say “not my problem”?, and let them make an even more radical website.

This comment is a mess. The fact that Reddit has banned /r/T_D does not make them liable in any way for what that community migrates to. These people espouse an ideology of "personal responsibility", yet it's Reddit's fault that they are choosing to interact with a more extreme website?

That is some pretty twisted logic you have there. This same ass-backwards logic is being used by some now to blame Joe Biden for the Capitol Riot. How dare Biden have won the election, he should have let trump win to prevent Trumps violent mob from sacking the Capitol Building.

No one should give in to the violent, hateful, irrational and seditious mob of Trump supporting Fascist thugs that are increasingly making up more and more of the right wing. They need to be crushed politically and shoved back into their basements. Capitulating to these Fascist thugs even in the slightest has shown that it will only lead to them being emboldened and pushing further and further into Authoritarianism. They don't care about Democracy or Rule of Law, only forcing their views on the rest of society violently!

There is a consistent logic to Trump and his followers: they are never to blame. Direct quote: "I don't take any responsibility at all"

Because Reddit is not the police?

Maybe the FBI should have as much knowledge about where the treasonous Trump supporters are meeting up as you do.

> there's a miss shooting

The good news is no one will get hurt! :)

Oh puhleez. Now it's Reddit's fault? The rest of us are supposed to spend our time keeping these wingnuts from radicalizing themselves?

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No, you should attack the strongest interpretation of my argument, which is that banning communities only lead to them regrouping and becoming even more polarised and radical.

As it has happened here.

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