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Comment by jariel | Hacker News Reader

This is completely false.

The machines are not hacked, and the voter rolls are legitimate.

There is zero evidence of systematic fraud, therefore, there is no 'disenfranchisement'.

To suggest that 'maybe one day, someone could mess with our election' is not 'disenfranchisement'.

"You may have been told by the media" - Rudy Giuilani and the President clearly failed to make a case or provide any evidence - moreover, they lied, lied and lied through the process and have no credibility.

The election was fine - Trump's claims of fraud are completely fabricated.

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There is a lot of evidence of voter fraud. I'm not sure if enough to turn around a presidential election but it can change local ones. https://youtu.be/ZD1-dBrP4Pw

No one is saying there's zero fraud, it happens every election on very small scales, but its only ever at the scale to affect elections that are within a few hundred votes. None of the states were anything close to that.

> The machines are not hacked, and the voter rolls are legitimate.

> The election was fine - Trump's claims of fraud are completely fabricated.

Their capacity to claim fraud is _because_ of these weaknesses that make such a claim possible. Regardless of what the truth is, there are millions of people who think the election was rigged. If we don't placate those people and fix the issues, it could continue to escalate.

This is upside down.

We don't investigate innocent people for murder to placate an angry mob.

What we do is implement a communications strategy to get the mob to realize the random person is not guilty of murder.

The President is using the authority of his position to lie and misrepresent the issue, so we'll have to stop that somehow and get the proper message out.

There are no fundamental weaknesses in the system to the point wherein any organized attempt could flip the election - other than in the known grey areas which we fight about in public such as 'voter rolls' and how we purge them etc. There is ambiguity there.

But the voting itself is actually really credible. The 'voting machines' and ballot counting is probably the most impossible to defeat system.

Russians wanting to throw the election would have far more effect using Twitter and FB to incite crowds and to divide Americans, which is exactly what they have shown to be doing.

Do we placate them by refusing to acknowledge an obvious win? I'm sorry but it went way too far. The president and everyone who went along with his BS were writing checks they couldn't cash and so their followers go all worked up because of it.

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