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How many people did the protestors at the capital harm? How much property was actually damaged? There are hundreds or more small businesses that were looted or burned to the ground during the left wing protests. How many small businesses or individuals were harmed by the Capitol protestors? There was a unarmed protestor that was shot and killed by a Capitol cop. Where is the outrage over an unarmed woman getting shot? Perhaps because she is a white Trump supporter she doesn’t matter as much as a black felon suspect getting shot by cops?
The hypocrisy is vivid but not surprising.
Left wing riots that destroy and loot small businesses that have nothing to do with the grievances being protested: “peaceful protest” supported by AOC and other Democrat politicians.
Trump protestors occupying the halls of the very institution they are protesting? Somehow they are seditious and horrible.
If these Capitol protesters were leftists protesting a Trump victory, the media and most people here would be singing a different tune.
And what’s frustrating to many people is how even a discussion of election fraud gets flagged and buried. Especially in a place like Hacker News. Has anyone actually looked at the statistical anomolies from the election? We’ve talked about voter machine integrity years ago on HN, but those concerns disappeared all the sudden. Concerns about electronic voting seem to evaporate when it benefits a candidate of ideological choice.
It’s weird. It’s like the entire HN community has no technical curiosity about any part of the clearly “interesting” election. It really feels conspiratorial how all facets of the tech industry have identically but independently have worked to defeat a political candidate.
So yes, I get the protests. When we’re being gaslit on “fair and secure” elections, but with our own eyes we see the appearance of exactly the opposite. People are going to get mad. One case in point: In Atlanta, during the presidential election night. All the media reported that counting was suspended for a “water pipe break” at State Farm Arena. A pipe break that never happened. Not a single work order. No repair. No maintenance record. Not a photo. Nothing. Zero evidence. Then all of the critical battlegrounds coincidentally stop counting votes at the same times? Florida didn’t stop. Neither did Texas. Or New York State. But the critical battlegrounds? Every one of them stopped the counts. Observers being kicked out. Observers being told to go home yet the counting continued. Trucks arriving in the middle of the night with extra votes..
This isn’t made up. This is all real. Was is fraud? Perhaps not. But are the coincidences that all happen to favor Biden compelling? Definitely.
And yet even discussing these weird anomalies that all favor Biden can get you in Facebook jail, suspended from Twitter, kicked off of YouTube.. downvoted on Hacker News. Even debating or questioning the Coronavirus orthodoxy can get you censored.
The world is fucked up and tech companies are a big part of the problem. I don’t think I have ever been more ashamed to be in this industry.
I have a problem with BLM _riots_ but not anything about the protests themselves. I have a small problem with the MAGA protests, in that they're being led astray, but they absolutely have the right to protest and air their grievances if they're peaceful.
You are the one being gaslighted or trying to fool others. Every challenge to the vote was thrown out because there was no evidence presented. If there are the thousands of millions of zillions of cases of fraud and evidence of any of it why hasn't that been presented? It's because it doesn't exist. You can spout whatever lies you like in the media - social, mainstream or lamestream. But you can't lie to a judge without consequences, so no lawyer will help you lie.
As for Georgia, more than zero evidence: https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-fabricated-water-mai... so stop repeating that ridiculous talking point like it's a fact. If someone else sees your posts they might believe the same false things you do because you're authoritative.
There isn't a conspiracy to elect Biden. He's not that interesting.
You must not have been paying much attention to events outside your bubble recently. Many Antifa and BLM-aligned groups have spent much of the last year rioting, looting and committing arson. Throughout, they have been protected and excused by the mainstream US media and the intellectual Left, and the relatively small number of individuals that have been arrested during these events have mostly been released immediately - often to commit further violent crimes the same day.
I find that hard to square with your assertion that the protesters yesterday received preferential treatment due to their race and political leanings. As far as I can tell, the only difference in yesterday's events was that the Trump supporters didn't feel the need to burn the Capitol down.
Contrast to the ones that did turn into riots with property damage, looting or people getting hurt, which were perpetrated by a small group of protesters that stuck around after they were told to disperse / broke curfew, it seems similar to what happened in the capitol.
I think a big difference is that the rioting this summer affected insured private property and unfortunately did get people hurt in an effort to bring attention to systemic problems that parts of our country have. The event yesterday was a specific attack at a democratic process our country has in an effort to overturn an election that, at this point, has not had any evidence in court shown to cause doubts of it's legitimacy.
Intent matters. If the riots from this summer tried to assault city halls or state capitols that were in session I have a very good feeling they would have been met with more prejudice.