Who Wants to Be a Thousandaire? (2011)
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[1] https://vincenttunru.com/hacking-a-gameshow or Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/VincentTunru/status/1205527364739981312
[2] https://www.nu.nl/media/6099564/andries-tunru-evenaart-recor...
This doesn't seem possible. Surely someone who thought the way he did would have realised that you could sort the money in advance.
So, thinking about how you would run this contest, you've got three basic ways of generating a random serial number.
The first is literally generating a random serial number; the problem being, there is an infinitesimal chance the serial number you just generated is in the pocket of someone in your listening area.
The second is to choose a sibling serial number of a bill in your pocket -- change one of the last couple of digits. If you're lucky, the sibling bills will have been delivered to the same bank in the same area and still be in circulation. But there's still a pretty slim chance it's even possible.
The best way to ensure that your contest is actually winnable, that your target bill is in circulation would be to start the contest by taking all the bills from your collective pockets, at the studio, writing down the serial numbers, and then handing them to someone to go buy coffee for the studio across the street. Wait a week or two, and your target bills will have circulated through the area enough, but almost certainly be in the pockets of people who could tune in and listen, and not someone halfway across the country.
So enter the 100,000 $1 bills sitting in stacks in this dude's house. Not circulating. At first, this isn't a problem -- he took out the bills after the contest start, after all -- but as time goes on, and the studio repeats the process of tagging and releasing new bills in circulation to generate new numbers to call out, suddenly, there is no chance that any of these hundred-thousand bills you are laboriously checking will work.
Option 1:
Use the last two digits of some commonly available public number that was, essentially, random or at least unpredictable and not controllable. A good example today would be the cents portion of the SP500 index.
Options 2:
Tally up which of the numbers had the least amount of money bet on it and then make that the number.
You can guess which of the two options the more nefarious organizations used.
Interesting related note: back in the first half of the 20th century, there used to be a game in the newspapers where you were presented with a grid of faces, each one being numbered. The goal was to pick the face that you though OTHER people would pick most often. In other words, if you picked the most popular face, you would win. This led to lots of "well which face do I think other people will think is most popular etc"
John Maynard Keynes used the game above as a proxy for the stock market with stocks being the faces e.g. you were trying to pick the stock you thought that everyone else would buy.
I mean, pretending that it's random is fraud, but if you were honest about the affair, that would actually make for a mildly interesting game.
But if the game were that you need to pick others consider the least popular....
It happened more than once that the marketing side would come back and ask for a new winner because of a situation like us doing a drawing for a prize from an ISP, and the winner's email being "@competitorisp.net".
As far as I know (and I've got a reasonable basis for this), the clients never requested this or anything. It was purely our marketing guys not liking the optics of telling the client that a competitor's customer won.
And yeah, for some giveaways and stuff they'd take a list of people and trawl through their social media accounts to figure out who'd have the most impact.
Again, don't think the clients had requested this, it just made the job we're doing look better to show the client "Yeah this person won and look at all the social media buzz it created!" rather than "Yeah we gave it to someone that looks like a troll, has no media presence, and the only people that will probably hear about this are a few people in an IRC chatroom."
If it's not regulated (or small enough that the regulators won't notice), I'd assume any contest/etc like this is probably rigged. Marketing is, generally, an industry full of lies. The contests are no different.
This is definitely not a requirement according to some business owners. No shortage of faux competitions used to generate email signups around, even from reputable companies.
Bonus points for using this to generate evidence for VCs you're courting.
At the start of the contest, you might have 0.1% of the people in your listening area tuning in for the reading of the serial number, and by the end, 1-5%, before dropping down to, say, 0.2-0.5% after the contest is over. Early on, there's a 1 in a 1000 chance of someone listening having the bill, more or less, so the contest won't end too early, but by the end, you are up to a 1-in-20 chance, so once it gets popular enough, it will end fast enough that people don't get too much into grumbling that your contest is rigged.
Meanwhile, the radio station probably didn't actually put up the $30,000 -- it was probably an advertiser who paid the radio station $40,000 out of their advertising budget to run the contest, or should I say, the Wonder Widget's daily drawing, brought to you by Wonder Widgets, your wonderful source of wonderful widgets. You repeat the advertiser's slogan three or four times as people are tuning in to the station to listen for the day's serial number, and three or four more times throughout the day reminding people to tune in at X o'clock.
There's no need for the contest to be rigged or unwinnable -- it's a bargain for everyone at half the price. The advertiser knows people are listening to their ads, the radio station is getting paid outright as well as getting a boost in their listeners (which gets them more money from other advertisers). And actually paying out the money, eventually, lets you go back to that same gold mine again and again.
This all reminds me of the lengths I went to a few years ago. An admin assistant in my office was really into these contests. She would listen to all the various stations and call in. There was a contest that was "identify this song" and everyday it went unguessed, they would add to the pot. It was getting up to $20,000 or something and no one could guess. I ended up downloading the clip and putting it through various Shazam like programs trying to help identify it. Never did win, but it was exciting for a short time. If after 30 days, they had just said, no one wins, I would have been pretty erked.
Anyway, I know lotteries and gambling are regulated, what about e.g. radio or charity raffles?
Same with email signup regulations. Plenty of laws and regulations, yet it's really hard for people to get caught and fined for misbehaving.
n = 100_000
K = 2 # seconds
time_secs = K * n * log(n)
t = timedelta(seconds=time_secs)
t # datetime.timedelta(days=26, seconds=56185, microseconds=92994)
So around a month (at 24×7, so in reality more like 3 months) of time sorting if in a horrendous abuse of big O notation we assume that sorting the notes takes 2 * n * log(n) seconds.I guess he could use a pigeonhole sort though - at constant factor of 10 seconds this gives 11 days 49600 seconds.
[1] https://www.titlemax.com/discovery-center/money-finance/how-...
What is interesting is that you could theoretically deposit (part of) the money into your account and then withdraw somewhere else, so change the odds slightly.
This was the mid-to-late 80's... it wasn't THAT long ago. The majority of people reading this were alive back then. Yes interest rates were higher in the 80s and 90s, but not as high as you are insinuating. At this time (from my memory) you could expect about 1% per year in interest. Maybe upwards of 2% annual interest if you had a very generous deal with a bank, but even that is unlikely.
At 1% a year, his $100,000 is generating ~$83 per month in interest.
Granted he could do other things with his money to appreciate it. Which would increase his time value of money. But the opportunity cost of checking/savings account interest was pretty small.
Granted the guy was stupid to begin with for even thinking he could win this contest and for putting $100k in cash in his house in case... I don't know, someone broke in or something... wait, that's what happened.
https://www.bankrate.com/banking/cds/historical-cd-interest-...
https://barbarafriedbergpersonalfinance.com/savings-account-...
Also, due to inflation, if you want to compare with today's dollars you need to multiply the amounts by approximately 4.
MARCH 31, 1986
"A wealthy San Francisco socialite in her 80s keeps $1 million in a passbook savings account earning a mere 5.5% interest."
A "mere" 5.5% is quite higher than 1%.
By the time you could even buy an 8-bit home computer for couple hundred dollars, store all the serial numbers on a floppy and simply search through them once per day
Then, once you know you have the winner, how long is it going to take you to find it?
If he had invested the $110k in the stock market in 1984 he would have been a millionaire at the time of his death in 1999, but crazies and normal people never see that.
https://www.noelwhittaker.com.au/resources/calculators/stock...
You trade an O(bucket size) linear search for the (log n) in the O(n log n) (assuming you optimally sort), which in computer terms is usually a bad idea but in this case, a significant savings.
For example when pairing socks, first sort them by color. Or when doing hit-box-detection in xyz, first sort by one of the axis.
Hearing this full story some years later shows how much we were in the dark on so many situations before the internet. As hard as you try to bulletproof things, there’s that one person who figures out a way to bypass it.
The article is a great read though, reminds me of a childhood friend who tried to build a light operated solenoid to beat fruit-machines on their stop the trail features.
Long story short, it didn't work because the people who build fruit-machines were smart enough to randomise the latency of the button push.
11.7 billion one dollar bills are in circulation today
100,000 / 11,700,000,000
Every Day 1 in Million Chance of Winning
The guy was seemingly clever why not take the 5mins to find the odds or a few hours to ask the local math teacher...
Yeah, but I'll pass on that. Give me a job at walmart over reading serial numbers all day.
Myth of sisphus
If it is chosen by writing the serial number of a bill in your pocket, then circulating the bill by purchasing something. The odds go up if you happen to stop by the banks a few days after that happened, or they go to zero if the bill was not fit for circulation and it was removed by the Federal Reserve.
Also, there's a good chance that a random serial number is not actually valid.
I'm always amazed, despite being well aware of inflation, the cost of things/cash value of prizes in things of yesteryear. When you hear someone bought their house for something like 7,000 dollars or their brand new car for 2,400 dollars my monkey brain just refuses to stop for a second and go "yeah but inflation".
Then there is the rabbit hole of goods that have gotten significantly cheaper over time, or even those that have been volatile at times (such as the spot price of silver and gold).
Way too easy to get lost thinking about stuff like that.
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/money-supply-m1
People who own (fiat) currency or have their salaries denoted in $ will face tough times - Weimar style.
I wouldn't say it looked similar... The time scales are different for the same _relative_ amount printed. 2009 took longer to play out. We're not even 1 year in.
I'm still not sure it will cause inflation though, since COVID has had a big deflationary impact and the Fed can always unwind if needed.
Because of COVID, for better or worse, US has been printing money like crazy to hand out and prop up different areas of the country. Whether you agree/disagree with this, that's for another thread. Point is, we're printing money.
If you're familiar with inflation, stop here. Obviously the country and the world are not producing nor consuming at the same level. Thusly at an extremely extremely simplistic level, we're not creating more "intrinsic" value, but adding more printed money to represent that "intrinsic" value. Each dollar now has less "intrinsic" value. (this is over simplified to the n-th degree).
This is the basis for inflation. Any unstable country would have seen hyper inflation given these numbers. So, the parent comment is alluding to this... eventually production has to catch up or inflation will.
Hum... Sure, it's the basis of some kind of inflation. But you'll get no useful kind that only depends on the amount of paper money in existence.
There is much more to inflation than the amount of paper money on the economy, and even than the amount of money the government creates.
Inflation is a complicated concept.
Found this while trying to determine the definition of "unbeardily".
I often think if we taught more about entrepreneurship in schools a lot of these get rich quick schemes would wither. I think as a society we’ve got a lot of entrepreneurial personalities that simply lack a means and understanding on how to apply those skills appropriately.
"Please tell us about the time you most successfully hacked some (non-computer) system to your advantage."
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Game Shows -- apparently individually constitute such (non-computer) systems... (of which "Press Your Luck" was but one example...)
(...I gave up on my first.)
https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/who-wants-to-b...
Then SNL made fun of it.
Now the OP is leveraging both with a nod.
I'm so extremely put off when an author spends three paragraphs building up to an exciting climax, hits enter enter and then writes "Michael Larson was born in the small town of Lebanon, Ohio in 1949". I had to skim half the article to find out how the story continued.
Anecdotally, this strikes me as a uniquely American thing to do (or, at least, I've not read a single Dutch article pulling this trick), is there any point to it? Is it just something about eyeballs and ads? Do they teach this stuff in journalism school? Maybe Americans are immune to it because of the enormous amounts of "build up, build up, build up, almost there..... Let's continue after the messages! ^_^" on childhood TV?
We aim for narrative non-fiction, to tell a true story that keeps the reader intrigued throughout. We've found over the years that stories with a good "hook" or "teaser" seem to be best received by readers. We've also found that people want some background on the people/places they are reading about, and this often requires us to jump back in time after the teaser to fill in the relevant information.
If your goal is just to extract the basic bones of the story rather than to be entertained for a while, you probably won't like this article, nor the others in our catalog. Our approach to storytelling is not for everybody. And that's okay with us--trying to please everyone is the short road to clickbait town.
If I were being hyper critical, I'd suggest maybe some kind of visual section break, like one of those stylised wavy lines - I have no idea what they're called!
And in fact, the guys back story was almost the highlight really. Laying himself off to collect unemployment ... what a piece of work.
No, you probably would stop reading after two lines of that. Because who cares about this ordinary-sounding guy? We have to know why he's interesting, first.
Or would you prefer to not know about Larson's background, and just get the exciting part of the story? Maybe you would, but many people would be left feeling dissatisfied by that and halfway through they would be asking, "So, who is this guy Larson, where did he come from? What's the context behind all this crazy stuff he did?"
Organizing a narrative is a difficult logistical challenge. Could you do it better?
The harder solution is to try to find a context which will make that factoid more interesting. For example, "Shaker Curse". Imagine an article telling you that everybody born there is cursed to never prosper, and now your mind is wondering, did Michael Larson broke the alleged curse, or affirmed it?
The hardest solution I had seen was an entire separate encyclopedia with biographies of people mentioned in the news crosslinked with a news article.
I know the parts which are relevant to Zuckerberg's story: that he was likely born in the US, and was likely around 20 when he founded Facebook.
A journalistic interpretation of Larson's childhood is speculative non-sense. The journalist was not there, and does not even cite who thought Larson was "creative and intelligent".
It doesn't add anything (for me), except that the journalist presenting themself as an omniscient narrator makes the article read as a fictional story.
(I felt safe assuming that without even looking it up - if that wasn't precisely the case, it would be part of his mythos)
I think the grandparent is talking about the tendency for writers to show all their cards in scene one and then retract them, saying "Aha! Got your attention, now instead of what I was previously describing, here's some mindless filler".
The next four paragraphs deliver none of this, opting instead to make a study of Larson's character. The show itself, another major character, doesn't makes an appearance again until paragraph 8. The first hint at the foreshadowed themes doesn't show up until the end of paragraph 10, where "Bob Edwards was uneasy about Larson." and then not again until paragraph 14, where "Host Peter Tomarken became increasingly flabbergasted..."
From that point on, the article seems to match the tone of the introduction. The correct fix is probably to rework the introduction to include some of the themes present in the first half of the article. Maybe focus on themes of escalation, as the whole article is built as a slow, constant build-up of intensity.
First they have the hook, then they go back and tell the persons entire life story. I think the point is for you to get somewhat emotionally invested in the story, almost like reading a novel or short story instead of just reporting the facts.
Some people find it more enjoyable to read, or may find it easier to retain information in this format as you begin to get invested in the story.
Not sure this is related but go look at english recipe sites. 10-15 screens of fluff to get to the recipe. It's clearly some kind of SEO or ad optimizing formula