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I just went and built something with it - http://alltimetop5.com I'm shocking at busy work for no good reason so I had to wait until a good enough idea came along to motivate me. The first version I just threw out, there were too many artefacts left from me stumbling wildly around.

I think that might be the point where you can call yourself proficient at ror, when you finally get how ugly the first code you wrote was :)

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Mod +1. I wrote an app in rails over a few long weekends (having never touched RoR or ruby before).

Idling on the rails irc channel helped me get through some tough spots. These days there are a ton more resources than there were 2 years ago.

Having a goal seems to help get through the tough or slow-going parts of app development. (i.e. the goal of just finishing & launching it)

I understand what you mean. I am writing my first application in Django without really understanding Python. The result is tragically awkward. But, I have high hopes for the next effort.

In any case, God help my first child.

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